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I said something along the lines of:

"Wow, I haven't had a reason to smile ear to ear in a while."

Along with

"Nah, the more dead ~~corpos~~ dragons, the better."

In response to some liberal going off about how violence is never the solution, not mentioning how this murdered dipshit has personally overseen a system that perpetuates harm, suffering and death (violence) in the name of profit.

...

Good ole' civility clause.

Whats the paradox of tolerance?

.world mods have never heard of it I guess.

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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Sorry for the big off-topic. I just can't help when it comes to etymology.

Edit: in case you missed it, the letter “I” was the Latin language character for “J” until the 4th or 5th century.

What changed around the 4th~5th centuries were sounds, not letters - the Latin words using the sound [j] (as in yes) were being pronounced with [d͡ʒ] (as in jazz). Even everyday words like iocus (game) or iam (already).

But people kept spelling them the same - you'd use "I" for [i ɪ j ʒ dʒ] (as in beet, bit, genre, jazz), and let context tell them apart. For any language using the Latin alphabet, not just Latin herself, as shown by Shakespeare:

The iniury of many a blasting houre;
Let it not tell your Iudgement I am old,

At most you'd flourish some "I" with a downwards curve, for easier reading; such as when you got 2+ "I" in a row. This mostly affects numbers (like XIII being spelled "xiij"), but also a few words like Old Spanish "fiio"="fijo" ("son"; modern Spanish "hijo").

Edit 2: in case you also missed it another group changed EL’s name to Allah

It's more like both sides changed it. Without going too much into detail:

  • the proto-Semitic word was around *ʔil or so
  • the Biblical Hebrew pronunciation of ⟨אל⟩ was probably [ʔil] too, even if Tiberian Hebrew would read the word as [ʔe:l] "El" instead.
  • Arabic "Allah" is most likely a contracted expression of [aɫiɫɫa:h]; [aɫ] is the article and the [aːh] a vocative. The underlying root is [ʔil]~[ʔill], spelled ⟨إِلّ⟩~⟨إِل⟩.
[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Well done on being both pedantic and informative. Yes you're absolutely correct on both points, I didn't feel the need to get that far into the weeds trying to explain that my own personal beliefs are tied into all of that historical pedantry. I just wanted to illustrate that such assholery is entirely possible by following the earlier ideas.

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry for my burst of pedantry. I couldn't help it, I love to dig through the origin of the words.

...for a reason that is actually related to your Baháʼí faith: it shows that humans - those in the past, us in the present, and probably the ones in the future - are still the same. You see the same processes working on those words in the past as they do now.

[I agree with your main point. And I'm aware that what I said is unrelated to it, it's only marginally related to the example.]

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