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Former Ukrainian boxing champion Wladimir Klitschko accused podcaster Joe Rogan of “repeating Russian propaganda” after Rogan criticized U.S. military aid to Ukraine and suggested it could escalate into World War III.

Klitschko defended Ukraine’s resistance against Russia, highlighting the country’s fight for freedom and condemning Rogan’s remarks as aiding Putin’s agenda.

He invited Rogan to discuss their differences on the podcast “like free men.”

Rogan, who recently endorsed Donald Trump, called the war a “proxy war” and criticized Biden’s decision to allow Ukraine to strike Russian soil with U.S.-supplied missiles.

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[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago

They probably haven’t had a fair election since the Soviet Union. Just because I oppose the far right puppet government in Ukraine does not imply I support Russia.

The people of Ukraine elected a government that was then overthrown in a coup by far-right Nazis and backed by the US.

[-] Adm_Drummer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

It was an organised people's revolution last I recall. There was clear evidence of fraud working directly opposite of the will of the people. That is fact. Unless you're saying that's not accepted fact and can provide evidence to the contrary?

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago

So the Maiden Coup didn’t happen? LoL. What evidence would convince someone who denies a historical event actually happened?

Especially a historical event where Nazis came to power. People who deny those aren’t typically swayed by any evidence.

[-] Adm_Drummer@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I literally said it did happen. It was literally a people's revolution that saw the end of a russian puppet taking power illegally and the rise of a people tired of being under the boot?

Do I deny NATO or US involvement? No. That would be naive and counter to historical fact. It would actually almost be as naive as believing the kremlin propaganda points you spew out.

Ukrainians tired of being sold out by their politicians changed the course of power in their nation and in return Russia invaded Crimea. This is fact. With or without US aid. This is fact. The will for change was there. This is fact. Russia openly and brazenly defrauded the Ukrainian election. This is fact.

Prove to me that Nazis took over the entire Ukrainian government. Show me the facts.

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