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While I'm all for this, I think the main issue with plazas is that a majority aren't in bike friendly areas, at least the ones I can think of. I mean if by plaza you also include strip malls, those aren't usually in areas with good pedestrian sidewalks or safe cycle lanes. Even in nicer, pedestrian plazas that aren't in a city centre, those still tend to encourage customers to arrive by car before walking around the path. There needs to be substantial improvements before these plazas can really encourage cycling. Bike racks alone won't be enough.
Though purchasing bike racks at the very least or as a start would be a step in the right direction.
I can only speak for my region, which consists of eight municipalities totaling around 700,000 people, but most plazas and strip malls are quite accessible by bike, especially newer ones, which have bike infrastructure leading up to them.
Regardless, for such a small investment in a bike rack, even one customer on a bike per week will make it worth while.
I, myself, live downtown Toronto so bike infrastructure is plenty (though of course can always be better). That said, the further from downtown the less hospitable it can be biking with large roads and less road law enforcement that has some priority for biking. Then there's the suburb towns that are only now considering really bike infrastructure and areas outside the GTA that are nowhere near building it. I agree it wouldn't hurt anyone to have bike racks around as a start, but it shouldn't be the only starting point if we want people to really use them.
Yeah, the few times that I've biked to Toronto, I'm amazed by how many people are riding and how robust (not perfect, though) the bike infrastructure is.
I will say that newer development here (Durham Region) often have cycling infrastructure baked in. So multiuse paths, bike parking at bus stops, bike lanes, etc. are more and more common.
Cycling these days is always a tradeoff. I don't mind not riding in protected lanes, if my destination has bike parking; and my entire ride could be on cycling infrastructure right until I get to my destination, then nothing. There needs to be consistency and continuity for anything to work right.