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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

these “centrists” are doing statistically better than your representatives.

Not at the ballot box. Pro-Genocide Reactionaries won in a landslide. Ceasefire centrists couldn't even survive their primaries in several instances (Cori Bush and Jamal Bowman, most notably).

no hate to OP but let’s laugh loudly at the ones who deserve to be scoffed and mocked, not the people who are actively supporting Palestinian emancipation.

The problem with any conversation about "centrism" is that its a title anyone can claim, trivially, just by tilting the rhetoric to sound like you're defending the status quo rather than advocating for a change.

Right now, the centrist position of Israel and its allies is genocide, with disputes over exactly how far the slaughter needs to extend. But there's a universal accolade of Israel in its response to Oct 7th. Virtually no American politician, on the liberal or conservative side of the aisle, is contesting Israeli's right to kill 10% of the population of Gaza and rising in response.

Palestinian emancipation is a far-left position in practical terms. It would require such an enormous shift in both public sentiment and national policy as to be practically revolutionary in its own right.

(honestly let’s laugh at whoever wrote and approved that headline, it does no service here.)

It's illustrative of the state of national media in a country that has consistently been in favor of ethnic cleansing going back to its founding days.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 days ago

Not at the ballot box.

??? feel like you need to read my comment again so I will just let this be. I am talking about pro-Palestine movements being further left than all but 17 represantives by calling for ceasefire. Of course they are not doing well at the ballot box; they are a minority.

The problem with any conversation about “centrism” is that its a title anyone can claim

Agree, and also a title anyone can plaster, as has been done by this post against real pro-Palestine groups whom I greatly doubt would apply the label to themselves.

It’s illustrative of the state of national media

Yea, so laugh and attack that destructive status quo rather than student groups who do better than most. Attacking these well-intentioned, if imperfect, young people and their educators honestly just makes me sad because it’s doing absolutely nothing rhetorically to shift the overton window and contributes to an alienation of young people from the left.

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