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Generative A.I. a Parasitic Cancer
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this post was submitted on 03 Jan 2025
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Searching the web for "glb file format" seems a natural thing to do while listening to the first part of this video. On my favourite searx instance I had to scroll past only 7 links to LLM-generated garbage before finding a link to the actual spec. I wonder how Kagi fares in this test.
If you wanted the specification why not search for ".glb format specification"? I did that on Google and the specification was the first hit.
I find it interesting as an experiment to measure how polluted the information environment is with machine-generated shit, not as an exercise in how to navigate around it.
It's only "polluted" if you're looking for something specific and you refuse to ask for something specific.
If you go into a restaurant and ask them for "a drink" without specifying what drink you want, don't complain about the quality of the coffee when they bring you a coke.
Coffee and cola are both pretty good. Are you reflexively coming to the defense of generative AI on general principle or did you actually look at those sites, the horribleness of which is exhaustively detailed in the video, and decide that they look as if they could be useful to anyone?
I looked at the sites. Did you? The thing that OP was looking for that they claimed had been made unfindable or "polluted" were perfectly accessible and fine.
The "google-fu" in this case was to search for ".glb format specification" when seeking the .glb format specification.
This really doesn't seem like a huge challenge requiring sophisticated skills.
The thing that's wanted is not one link to the official protocol specification document along with a dozen links to SEO-optimized AI-generated time-wasting nonsense. It's a large set of links to diverse interesting sources discussing the topic searched for and things adjacent to it. The web was never perfect, but we were much closer to that ideal ten years ago than we are today.
Someone's complaining about the war and you've come along with a pair of earplugs saying wear these, you won't even hear the bombs.
This is wildly diverging from "I want the specs for a file format."
Apologies if my initial comment somehow reinforced your misconception that the linked video was all about the difficulty of finding the specs for the file format.
Just dropping by here to remind you to treat others on this instance in good faith, even when you disagree.
I just searched using Kagi. It fares poorly. Normally I get better results but "glb file format" seems to be a cursed search. Nothing but AI with the exception of one Wikipedia result and one Reddit post.
I will try "how to parse data from a glb file" and report again in an edit.
EDIT: Solid hits from the first try. It seems that search engines are being swarmed by generated garbage for open or vague questions. The moment you get specific, the AI slop seems to fall off...at least on Kagi.
Here is an exported result list from Kagi that should be accessible without an account.