Not federated Lemmy instances? (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 months ago by IlIllIIIllIlIlIIlI@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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Do you know any Lemmy instances not federated with other ones, living by themselves? Do you know any interesting or creative use case for a not federated instance?

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[-] IlIllIIIllIlIlIIlI@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Do you know why they were not federated and then changed to federation?

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I believe they forked from Lemmy before federation existed close to 4 years ago, added things like custom emojis and then only re-merged after federation was implemented then turned it on.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

Ah, that explains why their custom emojis don't render correctly anywhere else. I wish that piece of code would get merged into the main version so it'd be less annoying.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

I wish they would merge in the pronoun support too, one of the better hexbear features imo.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 months ago

I'm not a fan of forced pronoun badges as an Agender person. Allowing people to have pronoun badges is good but only if it is optional. When it isn't it creates a dilemma where a person has to choose between outing themself, or lying if they don't want to out themselves.

As it is though, their implementation of it simply uses (or rather commandeers) the display-name feature Lemmy has, so in a way we already do have an optional implementation of it for people who want it. It's just not mandated. The way they did it was to replace display names with Pronoun tags and have them be mandatory.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

The display names option does limit your actual name length combined with pronouns, hexbear it's a separate field. I do appreciate the arguments against having it mandatory/integrated into the main lemmy. Here's the github post about it, the lemmy.ml mods agree with your line.

That said, on hexbear I see plenty of people keep none/use name and they've also have specifically agender ones like null/void, undecided, any.

[-] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 months ago

They were running a self maintained fork of lemmy that wasn't compatible, though I don't know if that was the original reason

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 5 points 3 months ago

Hexbear essentially predated federation iirc, then migrated to Lemmy when that became possible. Hexbear is I think roughly the 3rd oldest instance - sorting its posts by Old shows that it is 4 years old, while lemmygrad.ml is 5 years old, and lemmy.ml is 6 years old. Lemmy.ca in Canada and the Finnish sopuli are both also 4 years old, mander.xyz is 3 years old, but Lemmy.world, by far the largest instance with ~80% of all users, is only ~2 years old, being formed at the time of the Rexodus.

Read some more about it here (don't click the link there to follow further - in true hexbear trolling fashion it will simply take you to a picture showing a pig in the act of pooping, you have been warned) and especially here, e.g.:

Two of the sites listed there, Hexbear (aka. chapo.chat) and Bakchodi, do not federate. They are not part of the Fediverse, but they are using Lemmy. Hexbear is actually running their own fork of Lemmy.

TLDR: bc they felt like it, then they didn't, now it seems like they almost do again, bc facts are nearly always stranger than fiction:-).