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[-] silence7@slrpnk.net -3 points 1 year ago

Inflation dropped, so prices are rising more slowly. Deflation, where prices drop, causes a collapse in investment and spending, which was a key cause of the Great Depression. You don't want that.

The law cuts the rate of emissions; it doesn't lower temperatures. It'll take getting the whole world on board to bring emissions to zero, and that's only enough to stabilize temperatures.

[-] TrundleTheGreat@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It feels like a real slap in the face when the government just shrugs their shoulders and says, “Sorry, if we try to make things less unbearable, it might bring the whole system crashing down around us. This is just how it is from now on, so get used to it.”

“Then surely you’re going to pass a higher minimum wage, at least?”

“Haha, also no.”

Prices going up slower than they’ve been is a small consolation when prices shot sky high all at once and continued to do so for months, leading to the still unconscionably high prices we see today. Our only option is to live in food insecurity to preserve the profits of billionaires? What a joke.

Besides, this is the climate community; degrowth is without a doubt one of the best paths forward for reducing further climate change. We need to slow down because all this isn’t sustainable whatsoever. It’s investors who drive the profit-over-everything model, driving the very extractivist capitalism that fuels climate change today. Fuck ‘em. I’d take 10 million “broke” investors over a dead planet 100/100 times.

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