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[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 18 hours ago

Why would they need soldiers "when the time comes" / "when the day comes"? I thought Ukraine was a lot more evil dictatorship than Russia. Aren't you looking forward to peace? Wouldn't it be nicer to have Russia on their borders, with open borders and free media, and finally put an end to the corruption of Ukraine? You said you were looking forward to the Russian military rolling over Kyiv, and then you could leave under the auspices of Russia's more friendly government. Right?

I'm mostly done talking, I'm just fucking with you I guess for my own amusement. It was enlightening though. Thanks for the insight.

[-] Ciralinde@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 10 hours ago

Why would they need soldiers “when the time comes” / “when the day comes”? I thought Ukraine was a lot more evil dictatorship than Russia. Aren’t you looking forward to peace? Wouldn’t it be nicer to have Russia on their borders, with open borders and free media, and finally put an end to the corruption of Ukraine? You said you were looking forward to the Russian military rolling over Kyiv, and then you could leave under the auspices of Russia’s more friendly government. Right?

I don't understand where do you see any paradox in that. Yes I'm looking forward to peace for Ukraine. Yes, I think it will be possible to leave the country in case of peace deal or if Ukraine falls. Yes, I consider it possible for Russia to continue and attack EU states eventually. Do you think I'm telling NATO to come fight for Ukraine or something? That would be neat, but that's obviously not going to happen.

and then you could leave under the auspices of Russia’s more friendly government

It's not that they are kind, they just less absurd and at least don't sabotage their own economy and morale as hard as ukrainian government does.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 6 hours ago

don’t sabotage their own economy

[-] Ciralinde@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 4 hours ago

If you're interested what ukrainians are talking about today, it's how USAID funded Maidan in 2014 and how it explains why we don't have Maidan now even though we have 100x reasons for it. In the meanwhile, Verkhovna Rada fighting each other while admitting terrible mismanagement of the frontlines. I'm personally researching some threads on extents of foreign influence in 2014 Maidan and some general things about colour revolutions.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 4 hours ago

Ukrainian ladies would be very disappointed in you.

The US State Department (more so than USAID, although I'm sure they were in Ukraine) was certainly involved in Maidan. They didn't create all those people in the streets. Those same crowds of people are out fighting against the Russians right now.

Just give it a rest. Russians can fuck off and go home. That's peace.

[-] Ciralinde@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 hours ago

They didn’t create all those people in the streets.

Apparently a lot of those far-right NGOs who were "the muscles" of Maidan were funded by west. I guess most of those have found their way to Valhalla by now. Certainly there were some civilian activists as well. I hope they don't have to participate in undersupplied meat assaults.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 2 hours ago

Oh yeah, the muscles came with their thick skulls and brutally assaulted the batons of the berkut and titushky.

Get fucked. I think how I'm going to start to deal with it when people start commenting bullshit to me, is to start to make posts about the accurate side of the matter, so that the sum total impact of you talking with me will be the spread of a lot more accurate information, instead of anything achieving your actual goal.

https://ponder.cat/post/1518838

Have fun! Tell me more about these far-right NGOs. Which NGOs, and about how many of their "muscles" were in the protests in 2013?

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