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[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago

It’s one thing to be ignorant. It’s quite another to be confidently so in the face of overwhelming evidence that you’re wrong. Impressive.

confidently so in the face of overwhelming evidence

That I'd really like to see. And I mean more than the marketing bullshit that AI companies are doing...

For the record I was one of the first jumping on the AI hype-train (as programmer, and computer-scientist with machine-learning background), following the development of GPT1-4, being excited about having to do less boilerplaty code etc. getting help about rough ideas etc. GPT4 was almost so far as being a help (similar with o1 etc. or Anthropics models). Though I seldom use AI currently (and I'm observing similar with other colleagues and people I know of) because it actually slows me down with my stuff or gives wrong ideas, having to argue, just to see it yet again saturating at a local-minimum (aka it doesn't get better, no matter what input I try). Just so that I have to do it myself... (which I should've done in the first place...).

Same is true for the image-generative side (i.e. first with GANs now with diffusion-based models).

I can get into more details about transformer/attention-based-models and its current plateau phase (i.e. more hardware doesn't actually make things significantly better, it gets exponentially more expensive to make things slightly better) if you really want...

I hope that we do a breakthrough of course, that a model actually really learns reasoning, but I fear that that will take time, and it might even mean that we need different type of hardware.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Any other AI company, and most of that would be legitimate criticism of the overhype used to generate more funding. But how does any of that apply to DeepSeek, and the code & paper they released?

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