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Joe Manchin vows ‘unrelenting fight’ against US climate law he helped pass
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To be fair, it's one of the old school Republicans that would cross the aisle and vote for something Democrats made that are now Extinct in modern Politics. They died with John McCain, honestly. Better Manchin than Sinema or an actual modern Republican.
If I had to vote in 5-10 more Joe Manchin style "Democrats" to kick the same number of Republicans out of office in Red States, I would. Especially if it gave us 60 Democrats and the ability to have a filibuster-proof majority. Even if they were like "Immigrants are bad" or "All guns are good" or "We have to stop being woke about gays and trans and pronouns." or whatever, as long as they weren't all of that at once (and preferably only ONE of those at once) I'd vote them in, so long as they voted to do something about climate change, and also hopefully to reform the economy so all the money and power's not in the hands of the big megacorps and billionaires.
People won't stop being stupid and bigoted, so we have to take the wins we can. Everyone complains that Republicans keep trotting out "God, Guns, and Gays" every time they campaign, but what they're not addressing is that Republicans keep WINNING with the 3 G's and also immigration. They hold the house and have enough of the senate to filibuster everything. They've also used their control of the house and senate (and Presidency, when they have it) to pack the Supreme Court too.
I honestly want Democrats and liberal ideological purists to start being realistic now that the world is burning down around us and see that we've run out of time and need to start winning now, or else we won't have a future. The fact that young Republicans believe in and want to do something about climate change is also a good thing. Reality is about power and consensus, it's not about ideals.