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Trump says Palestinians have ‘no alternative’ but to leave Gaza
(www.theguardian.com)
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Rofl. Biden/Harris trying everything they could to circumvent the blockade to get supplies into Gaza. Trump literally saying he wants to expel the remaining Palestinians and take their land for himself.
You will never admit you were wrong. You will go to your deathbed self assured with yourself that you never compromised on your ideals no matter what actually happens to Gazian Palestinians.
If it wasn't abundantly obvious to the rest of ya'll before, these soapbox "never genocide" bad actors never gave a single shit about what happens Palestinians.
Check their comment History. They’re not here in good faith at all. Just call them out and move on, but they don’t deserve a debate on this.
What a bold lie. Biden vetoed UN votes to stop the blockade. He defended the Israeli military shooting unarmed Palestinians who approached the blockade and approved of Israel blocking the investigations of the deaths of NGO workers.
You could argue Biden was more in favor of peace than Trump is, but in practice he didn’t differ from Trump’s previous term on Israel. His record is clear.
The US built a whole temporary harbor to deliver aid to Gaza.
The whole point of that temporary pier was because Biden was unwilling to pressure Netanyahu to open any of the gates into Gaza, so sea deliveries was a way around him. It delayed aid for months, and it was eventually destroyed in a storm. And then Biden let Israeli military use it for raids and it then became a military target.
It was a failure. A policy failure through and through.
During the time of his he pier, trucks were also getting in from other entrypoints. Israel even constructed and opened new ones.
The problem with aid availability was mostly related to challenges with distribution inside Gaza.
The pier had the same issue. Aid was piling up next to it, but distribution further into Gaza was slow.
That’s simply false, and literally every aid organization and the UN and international press said otherwise. Long lines of hundreds of trucks were not allowed to enter Gaza by the Israeli military, I saw the videos and interviews of the drivers, even Biden admitted it was because Netanyahu refused to allow trucks in and not because of logistics inside Gaza itself. It was part of Netanyahu’s attempt to starve the population both to please the rightwingers in his coalition and to pressure Hamas into surrendering.
The UN and aid organizations of course don’t publicize their inability to distribute aid inside Gaza. They will always blame Israel. However there are also statements by aid organizations and UN that they can’t distribute because of armed groups.
COGAT are the ones actually checking and counting all the trucks going into Gaza. Aid organizations only count their own trucks, so their numbers are always too low. Commercial trucks have been going into Gaza all the time as well.
That’s a very selective reading and being intentionally misleading, that was only the problem AFTER 13 months of Israeli forces not allowing trucks in. Look at what they were saying in October and earlier, the main obstacle was trucks not being allowed in. I watched this unfold in real time.
You’re denying what NGOs and the UN were reporting for the 14 months prior; aid was not being allowed in by Israel. Biden said it, and Netanyahu admitted it. It was intentional to try and pressure Gazans into a ceasefire, and it was illegal like I said above.
You can look at the actual data for UNRWA and WFL only and you will see that there were always trucks getting in.
They even stress that this is only a part of the aid getting into Gaza.
Go on an find a day where no truck got in.
Who do you think is paying for the blockade?
Red flag number one, laughing about genocide.
Except applying diplomatic pressure, Except taking military assets and delivering the supplies (besides the stupid symbolic airdrops that didn't even come close to meeting requirements and killed a bunch of people). Except stopping arming, or even threatening to stop arming, the military that was blocking those supplies - in contravention of international and US law. Except Antony Blinken literally falsifying reports to Congress about "Israel" blocking supplies, because that would legally implicate the Biden administration for continuing to arm them.
"Saying". That's the problem with you. All you hear is words. You don't read bills. You don't look at arms shipments. You don't read the history. You look at headlines.
What did i just say?
"This genocide started under Biden, with his support, and is continuing under Trump, with his support."
They absolutely obliterated Gaza with Biden-supplied bombs while he sat there with his hands over his eyes going, "I don't see anything wrong!" And then after two weeks in office, Trump goes, "oh my god, it's totally destroyed! We'd better ethnically cleanse them." while literally sitting next to Netanyahu. And in your brilliant brain, you don't see the plan at work here.
You are the one laughing in a message about their genocide. Look at my message. Do I sound like I'm fucking laughing?
You should be ashamed of yourself.
Hilarious. I love your commitment to the bit.
Engage with honesty and integrity and compassion, or stop fucking responding to my comments.
Oh trust me. I’m as honest as I’ve ever been. I sincerely love seeing people being passionate about their interests. And you seem to LOVE being wrong.
Bro it isn't worth it. I respect what you are trying to do, but Lemmy is an echo chamber on these things. You are completely right in what you are saying, but you're wasting your time commenting here.
Clearly, if Kamala had won she would have personally resurrected every dead Palestinian and single-handedly repaired all the infrastructure. Let's conveniently ignore that she was Vice President in an administration that circumvented Congress multiple times to deliver arms with less oversight, that (almost) every US elected official has vocally supported Israel's actions for 70+ years, and that Kamala herself committed to nothing of substance on the topic.
Wow… this is almost every logical fallacy rolled into one comment.
Bravo!