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this post was submitted on 17 Aug 2023
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You're partly right. But it's the job of the citizenry to stand up to this stuff, not the state. We can't keep our heads down and hope it goes away on its own. We shouldn't allow the state, with its monopoly on violence, to fight our social battles for us.
I dislike the idea of the state getting to start making decisions on what is "hateful". And I'm disgusted we don't have more people standing up and loudly declaring how wrong the hateful viewpoints are. It is our responsibility and we are failing.
It is a tempting proposition to let the state handle hateful speech, but we don't have to look much further than Florida to see what happens when the shit side is in power and starts redefining what is "hateful".
So what's the state for?
Nah. Our state should do more and better things than that.
I like having a space program, for example. And education for all
A space program is not optional in today's world. As is education, among a huge number of different things
There are many schools of thought on what a government is for or should do and most people do not ascribe to the notions you are presenting as fact.
It doesn't matter what you think. Governments are expected and set up to do much more than that around the world and that's because that's what their intents are. It's not just those three things. If what you said was true, we'd have had no meaningful progress on anything.
You can deny it all you want, denial ain't just a river in Egypt
I think you're misunderstanding the person you're talking to. They are just saying that anything that can't do those 3 things is not a government.
There are a lot of things that collapse a government if not done that's not one of those three things, though. Like educating its people. Especially that one for a democratic government, in actual fact.
I think you're still confusing what you like in a government (e.g democracy) with what something has to do in order to qualify as a government.
Take a look at this report on education. If we look at a country like Mali the average child there has just two years of schooling and attendence even at primary/elementary school is very low.
It may not have a government that we like, but it still has a government.
No, you are not understanding that
is subjective, and differs from culture to culture and person to person.
And until you accept that fact, no debate is possible. Goodbye
Bye, have a nice weekend!