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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Proving it would require a much deeper understanding of the brain, I think. I'd be very surprised if they had all the same emotions, since they have such different instincts and behaviors and social structures.

It's also irrelevant to my point.

Whatever emotions they feel, it's enough for us to empathize with them. That means it hurts us to hurt them. You can feel it yourself if you've ever killed or hurt an animal.

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

surely you can see that what you are constructing is purely an appeal to emotion, and there is not empirical means to test anything you're saying.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

There's empirical evidence that slaughterhouse workers experience deep psychological harm and that's all I need. It clearly hurts us to hurt animals.

I'm not saying chickens deserve to live because they have emotions, just to be clear. I'm saying that their emotions are enough to trigger our empathy, and that means every time you kill an animal you're causing yourself psychological distress.

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

you kind of making a leap of logic though. there may be other explanations for why slaughterhouse workers experience psychological distress. it could be socioeconomic. it may be some other conditioning. your explanation amounts to post hoc ergo propter hoc

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

We can eliminate other explanations by looking at workers in similar socioeconomic circumstances that perform similar work.

Based on pay, they make about as much as other packing, manufacturing, and warehouse workers. It's indoor bluecollar work. Yet they experience far more psychological distress than other workers.

Here's another data point: when a new slaughterhouse opens in a community, rates of violence and crime rates go up. The same doesn't happen when a new manufacturing plant, packaging plant, or warehouse opens.

It seems trivially obvious. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

you aren't controlling for every possible alternative. for instance, a less media saturated culture with fewer depictions of anthropomorphism might not have this issue. you're simply choosing to believe it's an inherent problem with the process.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

literally blaming cartoons

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[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 22 hours ago

that's a strawman. i'm raising one possible explanation that you hadn't even considered (much less explored), and there are likely an infinite number of them.

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Are you a fucking Psychopath? Do you not understand that people would get affected by murdering others every day, day after day? Seeing that shit affects people. Maybe not you, clearly.

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