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Anon stops showering (sh.itjust.works)
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[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 89 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As someone who doesn't use shampoo and has hair which has re-adapted to not having the natural oils stripped out, and doesn't use soap for the same reason, I am confident to say:

** Showers are a good thing. **

Just don't blast your skin with steaming hot water and your skins microbiome and keratin glands will adapt. Being "100% clean" will lead to sweat which stinks because of the heat-resistant bacteria which flourishes (thanks to a less diverse microbiome) and produces bad odour after digesting your sweat.

Sweat itself doesn't have a smell, it's why you don't stink the moment you start sweating.

What OP is doing here is fabricating a satirical story based on these principles.

You will not take away my hot showers liberals, grrr

[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hot showers are bourgeoisie propaganda, designed to keep the working class in a perpetual cycle of stank.

Think about it, the sales of hygiene products fuel our economies, they have us played for absolute fools.

Our hot showers come at the cost of energy, normally coal, which makes climate change worse, making us hotter, and more sweaty, leading to more hot showers.

Ten thousand years ago, our ancestors had no class divide, no climate change, and no hot showers.

Surely you see now that our only option is to rise up, and together, say "fuck this shit" and kill billionaires and stop taking hot showers.

And if you keep taking hot showers then you're enabling the fascist techno crypto oligarchy patriarchy.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got a lukewarm shower to attend.

[-] Mammothmothman@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago

Wow you sound like a certain instance that shal go unamed

[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 26 points 1 day ago

I know lol, I'm just playing along.

[-] Lupus@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago

As someone who doesn't use shampoo and has hair which has re-adapted to not having the natural oils stripped out

That's very likely not a thing. The natural oil production (sebum) is primarily influenced by genetics and hormones.

Some people experience less oiliness over time, but this is likely due to changes in distribution, absorption, and perception, rather than a true shift in sebum gland function.

Frequent washing with harsh shampoos can temporarily increase oiliness due to compensatory production.

However, studies suggest this is a short-term effect rather than a long-term change in sebum gland activity.

** Showers are a good thing. **

Absolutely, using shampoo or not, proper scalp hygiene is important, too much sebum creates bacteria friendly environments, which can lead to infections.

[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago

As you said, the increase in oiliness is compounded upon daily use of shampoo. Using it frequently will eventually strip all of the oils out (if you've got long hair - People with shorter hair shouldn't have an issue).

There are certainly times where I use it, but it's very rare, it normally fucks my shit up for a good week.

[-] Lupus@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As you said, the increase in oiliness is compounded upon daily use of shampoo

As a short term effect, not a long term change in sebum production, the sebum glands are most likely primarily genetically and hormonally controlled.

I also said

Some people experience less oiliness over time, but this is likely due to changes in distribution, absorption, and perception, rather than a true shift in sebum gland function.

Using it frequently will eventually strip all of the oils out (if you've got long hair - People with shorter hair shouldn't have an issue).

I know what you're saying, but it could be interpreted as that the glands on your scalp just stop producing altogether, which is not true and if it happens likely presents a serious medical issue.

I briefly touched on the distribution of oil in your hair - if you brush long hair thoroughly and frequently you distribute the oil from the glands to the tips, which gives the perception of less oilier hair and is in fact, very healthy. Oil in short hairs obviously distributes faster and more easily from the glands to the tips, so a more frequent use of shampoo doesn't impact healthy hair as much.

Like I said, proper scalp hygiene can accommodate a wide range of hair washing habits. But if you forego that you'll get nasty issues.

[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Didn't mean to imply any impairment in sebum production, other than the increase to accommodate for the dryness. (Which can result in overly oily hair when you stop shampooing, which is a feedback loop your wallet really doesn't need to accommodate for).

For what its worth, my haircare routine consists entirely of warm water and a bit of a scrub.

People are genuinely amazed when I tell them I don't use shampoo or conditioner lol.

[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

You may not smell bad immediately after going to the gym, but if you leave your sweaty gym clothes in the bag to ferment overnight, they're gonna smell like a dehydrated cat pissed in your bag.

[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 9 points 1 day ago

Thats why I do my exercises in the nude.

[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

As nature intended

[-] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe sweat doesn’t smell but armpits def do

[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 9 points 1 day ago
[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago
[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

apocrine glands, like those in humans, produce an odorless, oily, opaque secretion that gains its characteristic odor upon bacterial decomposition.

Sweat kickstarts a bacterial feeding frenzy, leading to rapid binary fission (replication of bacteria which produce bad odour).

During winter my armpits do have a very mild smell, but during summer there's a notable difference.

The first place most people hit with the soap is their armpits.

They're creating a feedback loop condition for their armpits to smell worse in general.

[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I think washing is probably a good thing.

[-] Zozano@aussie.zone -1 points 1 day ago

Depends what you mean by washing.

Hot water isn't good for your skin, hair, or your microbiome.

Soap and shampoo are the same.

Consider the case of my mother, she's involved with wildlife rescues, and washes her hands multiple times a day with soap, so she doesn't cross contaminate animal species (some have diseases or parasites which can kill others).

On the best of days, her hands itch like crazy because the microbiome on her hands is all fucked up. Moisturizing isn't the solution here.

But when she's got her itchy hands full, excessive washing means all of the protective layers of oils are gone, her hands dry out and crack.

We haven't evolved to require cleaning in this way. People forget that hygiene is matter of health, not the social contagion it has become.

In Korea for example, they've been so conditioned (pun intended) by an obsession with cleanliness that many parents refuse to let their children play in nature, for fear of getting dirty (word for word what I've heard from multiple Korean parents while I was over there last year).

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