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Mozilla says its new Firefox terms don’t give it ownership of your data
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this post was submitted on 01 Mar 2025
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That's not going to keep them from selling it.
Their defense is the need to keep Firefox "financially viable", but if that keeps them from being able to broadly state that they won't sell our data, it's better to use a fork that prevents Mozilla from accessing that data in the first place.
Right? The license literally says they have a right to everything - everything we do in Firefox, and that we grant them full access to it. The shit is that? I don't need a law degree to read and understand that.
No, Mozilla, you don't have permission to see everything I write and type. You don't have permission to see the images I upload or even as far as I'm concerned you don't have the rights to see what webpages I visit. The most you get is when I (used to) submit a bug report.
The browser is the fundamental most basic access to the internet. I get that there's potential for data brokering profit, but it is a slap in the face to everyone who used firefox for privacy reasons.
They're trying to backpedal now:
See, you don't need to ever sell my data - like ever. There is zero reason for a browser to sell my data. I don't care about the backpedaling.
I spent 20 years on Firefox. Through the good years and the bad, when it was slow and clunky compared to the new shiny chrome through the bad PR. This is the straw that broke the camel's back. For now I'm on Librewolf - then who knows.
I’ve been using Firefox since its inception. I just want to wait until the dust settles before I decide what to do.
Idk man, at this point I see the hope, but after watching a few videos today of deep dives into their leadership - I don't have much hope for them anymore. Most of them come from data brokers and ad agencies, Meta, and other big tech. If it's not today, it'll happen tomorrow when the dust does settle.
Looking at the PR where they literally removed "We will never sell your data" was pretty much the final nail in the coffin for me.
I certainly understand where you are coming from. If time tells that they’re disingenuous then I’ll move to a fork or something else entirely.
I think that's wise, just stay frosty my friend.
Are you seriously not using at least three browsers? Don't concentrate your Web footprint.
I've tried this route before, but honestly I don't think the juice is worth the squeeze for the average person. There's also almost no way to assess its effectiveness.
I use Firefox as my daily driver, Vivaldi for spicier stuff and the Edge for work. I don't want any concentrated source having all my history. This is simple internet hygiene.