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Could it be that after milking that sorry Marvel franchise for all it was worth for years, Disney fails to excite people with their nth ultra-samey, ultra-low-originality rehash?
They're just not willing to take the risks they were talking when marvel was still going solo before it's Disney acquisition. Disney isn't big on risks.
Some of the TV shows have been more creative. The current movies are just rehashes though.
What risks did they use to take? As long as I remember the Marvel movies have been formulaic copies
Giving creative control to specific directors to let their vision shine through the project: Iron Man, Guardians of the Galaxy, Thor Love and Thunder, etc.
Edit meant Thor Ragnarok the Taika Waititi directed movie.
I mean, Iron man was like literally the first movie in the MCU (discounting that Hulk movie), it also literally started the trope of Bad Guy has literally the same skillset/power as the good guy that was replicated a bunch of times.
GotG, and Thor: Ragnarok are the only movies that are unique and carried by their directors.
Love and thunder is a dumpster fire.
I think bad guy having the same skillset is really just a superhero trope.
I listed DC heroes primarily to show it isn't just a Marvel thing. But all of these arch enemies are basically evil duplicates of the hero.
I think the trope largely stems from a "How do you defeat someone who is as powerful/strong as you" kinda thing.
But count how many DC films have it vs how many MCU films
Well it'd be the ratio we care about, but let's see (should only count first movie to simplify) and just saying yes if villian has same powers.
Marvel:
DC:
So 6/10 vs 4/7 or 60% for marvel vs 57% for DC. So surprisingly around the same.
Edited to fix formatting
You can't not count batman, it's a no.
So is Aquaman.
And so is Wonder Woman, not sure how you can say Ares has the same skillset as WW.
Ah I think Thor Ragnarok was what I meant, the Taika Waititi directed movie
Both are directed by Watiti. However, he got high on his own supply after Ragnarok, which how he made Love and Thunder.
In my opinion, Ragnarok itself was mid af movie with too many quips. And I absolutely hated Korg which was just a Watiti self-insert.
I mean making a movie about Iron Man, not the most popular character they had, starring Robert Downey Jr, who was recovering from all sorts of issues.
Disney bought them out after like the third or fourth movie, MCU is pretty much just Disney.
Those films were already scripted, cast, and costed out at acquisition, part of the Russo Roadmap. That all finished with endgame and handed the reins over to the corporate writer-room slop ever since.
Disney bought Marvel before the second MCU film even came out (unless you count the Hulk movie) in 2009. End game wouldnt happen for another 10 years.
Also I think it's Kevin Feige who's given the most credit for the planning around the MCU.
Regardless having a general plan for 10 years of movies does not mean you have a finalized script, cast, and directors locked down. I mean even just having Chadwick Boseman pass would have significant impacts.
Fair enough, I take back their lack of involvement. Maybe Feige cared more about getting it right, then hasn't cared since? We can agree that the initial burst up to Civil War was far different from post-endgame disordered half-baked arcs. What even is the arc now? Celestials into XMen?
Yeah, honestly I think they just wrote themselves into a corner with end game. The five year time jump is sooo messy, not to mention they just didn't use any of the first three phases to setup the next set of heroes.
I always thought we should've finally gotten an older Spiderman as it would have been great to see a Spiderman have to take up the mantle of leadership and take the movies in a slightly different direction than the comics.