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Posting this here again. If we want to solve problems, we need to understand their cause:
This really tracks for me. I grew up around wealthy liberals and am intimately familiar with how these motherfuckers think. I have been telling my friends for months that we cannot expect the Democratic establishment or our current batch of elected Democratic representatives to address the problem.
My father has literally said about the second Trump presidency.
See, it's not just our "elected dems in office," who don't seem to get it, it's the entire leftish / center leaning, privileged ass, rich ass, mostly white, mostly older demographic, all comfy with their owning of multiple homes and their inflated stock portfolios and their rubbing shoulders with billionaires. We complain about the "elected dems in office," because we see them out there being like this in public, in the news in front of everybody. But this whole demographic is like this and that's why we keep seeing it.
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The only way we'll change this is to STOP ELECTING DEMS FROM THAT DEMOGRAPHIC. They're not "spineless cowards," they just DON'T ACTUALLY REPRESENT YOU. They represent other neolibral rich people (people just like them, in other words). Those people's highest values are
They DO genuinely care about
Faced with chaos and instability they will
Importantly,
When we're asking our congressmonsters to fight, we're asking them to take up our values in ways that many of them (rightly or wrongly) see as abandoning their own core values. THAT'S why they're angry.
They're NOT cowards. They just don't actually value the same things you do and their core priorities aren't in the same place yours are. They never have been. And as long as we primarily elect Dems from this demographic, they NEVER will be.
EDIT:
People who want to just STOP VOTING DEM, like this will do anything other than further degrade the world as you shit more ineffectual, inactive anger into it...
NO. Let me be very clear: Evidence shows you are JUST MAKING THE PROBLEM WORSE. Not liking it doesn't make it not true. We need to find dems, especially state and local, who come from a different background and support those people. You could BE one of those people instead of whining on the internet.
See, these people I'm talking about here --^ will ALWAYS conclude that they lost because they were too far left and lost the moderate vote. Their political consultants will ALWAYS tell them they lost because they ran too far left. The DNC will tell them they lost because they ran too far left. And they will get feedback FROM THEIR PEERS (that is, other neoliberal rich people) that they lost because they ran too far left. Isn't that a shame? Isn't that such a bummer? That is who they will listen to, not your thrown away vote, not your abdicated power, not your hipster ass nihilism, but at least you have your fucking principals to keep you warm at night, as Palestinian children die, migrant families are locked in cages and Christian politicians look for ways to charge women who have abortions with murder. That all can't possibly be partly your fault, can it?
That's why I say above, we have to STOP ELECTING DEMS from that demographic if we want change. We can't pressure those people into changing, they won't. They are who they are, they do what they do. They're richer than you, they think they know more than you and they're not going to listen to you. We have to replace them.
But WHEN YOU DON'T VOTE FOR THEM WHEN YOU HAVE NO OTHER OPTIONS, you JUST EMPOWER REPUBLICANS. And Republicans are ACTUALLY stupid, evil AND crazy.
You can't create change by not voting, and you can do nothing but harm by encouraging others not to vote or to throw their votes away on a third party. We have First Past The Post voting. Do you see it going anywhere? Are YOU doing anything to make it go away? No? Then shut the fuck up about your third parties and not supporting dems. You have no logical leg to stand on. At BEST you have gravely miscalculated the situation and failed to understand the math at work. At BEST!
Get out there and support DIFFERENT dems. And if those dems don't win... vote AGAINST Republicans. PLEASE.
https://runforsomething.net/ or shut the fuck up. You are wrong in a stupid, destructive way, LITERALLY like climate deniers. There's no point in arguing with them and I'm done arguing with you.