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[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, no. It isn't the claim that requires proof, only the claim of something existing that requires proof.

Repeated attempt to verify whether something exists not supporting the thing's existence is strong evidence that it doesn't exist.

[-] bobdylans49thbeard@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, no. Any claim has the burden of proof. If you say, "there is no god," then it is absolutely on you to show your work. If you say, "I do not accept the claim that there is a god," that requires no proof because it's not a claim. This is basic logic.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

You're absolutely wrong. You cannot prove a negative. In a strictly logical sense it's the person making the positive claim that is required to show proof. A negative claim can only ever be strongly inferred.

[-] bobdylans49thbeard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I agree that negative claims cannot be proved, but that is actually a completely separate point t and doesn't just give free reign to anyone to make any and all negative claims without the burden of proof. If I claim there is no universe, it's still true that the burden of proof is on me and that I cannot prove my claim. Both are true.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah that is true. It's not free reign to make a negative claim and skip out. But it's also true that religion relies on an unprovable thesis. So asking anyone to prove they aren't real is a bit ridiculous.

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