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[-] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

If you don't think there are some drivers that actively try to scare cyclists off the road then you don't ride a bike. Hint: they often drive black lifted pickup trucks with tinted windows; you know the type.

[-] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Sure but that's because they're assholes, not because they own a vehicle. They're like that outside of their Small Penis Cope Machines too. They litter, they're rude, etc.

[-] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Earlier you said:

Plenty of terminally online cyclists think motorists are intentionally trying to run them over

And I have explained why cyclists know that some drivers are indeed aggressive towards them: punishment passes, honking, etc.

Sure but that’s because they’re assholes, not because they own a vehicle

That is moving the goalposts. It's easier to admit that you were wrong and we can all move on.

[-] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I said

motorists

You said

some drivers

The brain rot cyclists I'm talking about think all drivers hate cyclists. Everyone knows these assholes hate cyclists. Some of the terminally online types think everyone behind the wheel is like them

[-] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

It only takes one crash to injure or kill a cyclist -- there's no such thing as a fender bender when you are on two wheels.

Try commuting by bike for a month and you will understand why cyclists are so distrustful of cars in North America. It's a lot scarier than drivers realize.

[-] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Our job as sapient beings is to rise above things that scare us and still discuss them rationally.

[-] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Give it a shot. Experiment. Learn something new.

[-] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You could just not ignore what I said, maybe

[-] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

You are dismissing the experience of a group of people whose experience you have obviously not shared. Have you looked up statistics of car crashes and the incidence of injuries and deaths of cyclist in your area?? I have. Have you experienced the reality of commuting by bike in a North American city? I have.

I'll be happy to continue this conversation with a person that has done the minimum to learn and understand reality.

[-] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You are dismissing the experience of a group of people

No, I am dismissing the concept of basing reasoning - and policy - off of fear, or any emotion. When it comes to making policy and shaping a societal narrative, experience is good. Emotion, however, is very bad.

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