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Russia's red lines are that:
Absolutely wild to call these "very reasonable". These red lines are "be our puppet or else"
If ukraine was allowed to install nato weapons, usa would use that to nuke russia, then go to attack china, and then the bezos and zuck and other creatures would enslave and kill every single nonwesterner
But westerners want that because they are inhuman racist monsters
When the euros say "russia will invade europe and kill us all" they're doing projection, they're projecting their own cololonialist fantasies onto those they want to kill, to make up a reason for their rabid crusader behavior
If the US was going to nuke Russia, why on Earth would it need Ukraine? It already has Finland, Estonia, and Latvia if it wants a friendly launch site that's on the border, or Turkiye or Romania if it just wants somewhere close. Besides that, the missiles are "intercontinental" ballistic missiles; they do not need to be on the border. This explanation does not hold up in the slightest.
Ukraine trade with EU is not a reason for war. US led coup that installed nazis that put apartheid laws, and then exterminated areas that wanted autonomy is a reason for war.
Russia annexed Crimea literally a matter of weeks after the revolution. There was not even any time for the interim government to apply policies for Russia to respond to. It also annexed Crimea before the war in Donbass started, so your explanation makes even less sense there. Your conspiracy theory about the US installing the guy that would have absolutely obviously been the leader of an interim government anyway does not help.
Palestine freedom anti genocide protesters started Oct 8. They knew what was coming. Nazis questioning Russia's access to naval base was a natural nazi move, but not going to be entertained. Liberating Crimea was the most obvious area to liberate first. Was never going to accept or deserve nazi rule.
US was involved in fabricating protests, covering up the nazi black flag assassination of protesters, and blaming it on government forces, caught on tape hand picking successor government position. That the coup resulted in the "obvious leader post coup" is not much of a justification for a coup.
What do Palestine protestors have to do with this?
A base that was in Ukraine. Fucking hell, listen to yourself. Imagine if someone said "Oh well it's a natural Nazi move to question America's access to Guantanamo Bay."
Russia didn't liberate shit. Russia took Crimea.
Caught on tape saying that the existing leader of the opposition is the guy that would be the head of the interim government. That's about as much an indication of guilt as an election pollster calling a safe seat correctly.
If America wanted Yatseniuk in power so badly, why did it do nothing to keep him in power?
Crimea was a gift from Khrushchev at a time where people are still alive. Not much Ukrainian migration to Crimea happened in meantime. Ukraine's neutrality was part of the constitution that their independence was gifted. Crimea does not want to be ruled by nazi pig filth. To you, pro NATO nazi pig filth, awesome. Romanian anti-NATO nazi pig filth, straight to jail.
Poroshenko even better nazi, with bonus privatization under capitalist ideology corruption. Helped CIA/US State department finance and media manipulate coup. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petro_Poroshenko
Oh well if it became part of Ukraine in living memory then I guess that makes it absolutely fine, and on that basis the UK is completely within its rights to reconquer Pakistan, which was a gift granted in the partition of India
Are you arguing for ethnostates? If you aren't, it does not matter how many ethnic Ukrainians lived there
Oh, right, another guy who was voted out. Why did the US not install him instead of Yatseniuk, then? Why did they let Zelenskyy beat him?
Thank you for doing the lord's work. You'll never get past the Russo-pilled parrot speak but it's a joy to read sane comments.
Edit: The guy has 1.7k comments in 4 months and literally every one reads like it's pasted from a propaganda LLM. Drives me nuts that you can't have a normal conversation on the internet without being assaulted by this shit...
TIL the bri'ish natively live in pakistan???
Fucking western cololonialists
I have some shocking news for you about how Russians came to live in Crimea
Zelensky ran on a peace/Minsk compliance platform. Got the Russian vote. With his own nazi, but more moderate nazi, media support. Everything was going to come up CIA anyway.
lmao, right, so basically no matter what happened it was the CIA. That's very convenient.
You think democracy is supposed to lead to progress and shared prosperity? No its CIA capture, that makes democracy write propaganda against CIA enemies that pretend they're winning. West/Ukraine has been winning all along, Russia on brink of collapse, stories have been constant during war. The weakness of this particular feeble attempt is in first paragraph. Lemmy went apoplectic over criticism of absurdity.
You keep throwing the word "nazi" around quite a lot. Explain what it is, and why Ukraine is ruled by nazis now.
Banderites are equivalent enough to nazis. Ukrainian nationalists hateful of USSR/Russia fought with Germany during ww2 including administering extermination camps in Ukraine, and brutal massacres of "wrong" ethnic group villages. Stephan Bandera was their PR leader. He was given national hero with holiday status in 2019.
It was 2010, and it was annulled in 2011. The parliament rejected an attempt to re-commemorate him in 2019.
74% of Ukrainians have favourable view of him. Public celebrations of his birthday have massive turnout, with Poroshenko and Zelensky having praised him, and supported the "failed recommemeration vote". You are technically correct afaik.