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Court Orders Google to Poison Public DNS to Prevent IPTV Piracy. (torrentfreak.com)

submitted 1 year ago by Tea@programming.dev to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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Last December the Court of Milan ordered Cloudflare to block sites added to Italy's Piracy Shield system. Cloudflare sees itself as a neutral intermediary but increasingly frustrated rightsholders say it should play a more active role by assisting their fight against piracy. A decision issued by the same court now requires Google to poison its Public DNS to prevent access to pirate sites. It was handed down on March 11 without Google being heard in the matter.

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[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 107 points 1 year ago

He who cares about privacy even a little bit and uses Google DNS servers doesn't really care about privacy.

[-] green@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Google does not automatically mean bad. It is dangerous precedent to blanket ban and remove nuance.

8.8.8.8 is an excellent service, and provides genuine privacy gains. The largest downside being that it is such a massive target for bad-faith and ignorant actors - like the Italian government.

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Google does not automatically mean bad

Yes it does.

Google does everything with an angle, and that angle is putting you under surveillance and collecting monetizable data on you.

Google has (or had, maybe?) fantastic products. They're truly great! The translator, the map, Youtube... But they're great for exactly the purpose of luring you into using them, so they can abuse your privacy with them.

Google products are trojan horses: they're irresistible but their true purpose is nefarious.

[-] green@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

Like I said prior, there is nuance to be had here.

We agree that Google products are generally a honeypot (good products that lure you in), but which products are honeypots are important.

You very likely want to avoid Chrome, Gemini, and Google Search - but 8.8.8.8 is not a honeypot, it is a loss-leader. You will be lured in from 8.8.8.8 if you say "huh. this is a great service. is there anymore?", but 8.8.8.8 itself is not a malignant service.

[-] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 10 points 1 year ago

Their EULA states that they log all traffic (originating IP, requested url, and destination IP). for "business purposes" (at least, the last time I read it). Seems like a honeypot to me...

[-] green@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

I'll leave the privacy policy here and let people decide for themselves.

They keep two types of logs. An identifiable one which is deleted in 24-48 hours (dns0 and quad9 also do this) and an anonymized one. There is no mention of "business partners"; and it also says explicitly that the information is not used to target ads.

As the privacy policy and service reads, it is not a honeypot. However, Google generally does not act in good faith, so there's no telling if they have 100% adhered to the policy.

No matter, to make calculated and informed decisions, we should have all the facts in order.