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IT'S ON: Albanese to call May 3 federal election tomorrow morning
(www.abc.net.au)
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A May 3 decision between a giant douche and a turd sandwich. I’ll be voting for an independent, and definitely not the commie greens.
I was discussing this just a couple of days ago. Greens have terrible marketing and are in desperate need of a rebrand. I'm curious though: Which of their policies are you opposed to? Because honestly: if breaking up bank cartels, restoring Internet privacy laws, promoting local manufacturing, science and research as well as improving the calibre of education are bad, then I guess I'm bad.
For me, my criticism of Greens comes mainly from putting stuff in policies that would be better suited to "dreams and aspirations". They have a tendency to put stuff in there that are unspecific or at least out of the realms of what government does. But for all of that, I struggle to point to anything on their policy stuff and say "that's an awful position". At least, even if I'm not totally on-board, I see where they're coming from. And that's another point. Their policies page overwhelms you with too much to actually go through in one sitting. But, look at the Liberal/Labor equivalent pages? Greens are super open about what they stand for and what they would like to achieve. Labor have a few bullet points and Libs have a marketing brochure.
That Labor page is a bit pathetic isn't it.
I imagine they're going to roll out something fancy once the election is announced.
I'm a bit surprised neither of the two major parties really seems interested in environmental sustainability. Last election the teal independents really stole the show.
LNP's nuclear power plan is just an excuse to keep burning coal for another 30 years. I think most people who actually care about emissions will see that, but the existence of a plan will ease the conscience of LNP voters.
Labor has updated their policies this morning with the campaign announcement:
https://alp.org.au/policies
In my other comment I mentioned LNP's climate change position, here is ALPs:
https://alp.org.au/protecting-our-climate/
So I had a brief look at the Labor policies, and to be frank, it all looks reasonable. I didn't see anything there where I thought "that's an awful position".
So I re-visited the Liberal version. Maybe they all sound fine at first. Oh wow the Liberal one is awful. It's all 'Labor bad' and 'Under Labor...' and 'fix the mess of Labor'. Why are they the only party of the three to trash talk their opponents?
I think that's pretty classic conservative politics isn't it?
Not specifically whingeing about everyone else maybe but certainly undoing all the mistakes the progressives have made.
As much as I love the south park analogy it simply doesn't apply to our system at all.
Hating the greens for being too commie 🤝 hating greens for not being commie enough
We need the goldilocks zone of communism.
@dumblederp
You have three cows...
A big cow...
A small cow...
And a cow that is juuuust right...
@Fleur_
The Greens are trying to cut emissions, so consider we have three kangaroos; a big kangaroo, a small...
Vote Green and save the brush-tailed rock wallaby!
You're a fool, only the animal justice party has what it takes to handle that
They’re a good option although I can’t tell if you really care about animal rights or you’re a fool who would like to splinter the 3rd biggest party into smaller options. The thing about the environment is that it is a meta-issue, all other issues cease to matter if the environment becomes unliveable.
Luckily, splintering is generally-speaking not an issue, because of how our voting system works.
Technically
Technically speaking, if you splintered so much that the Greens fell behind on 1st preference votes, they could be eliminated early. But in that case it would probably have to be because a different left-wing environment-focused party (maybe AJP) did better than them, and Greens votes would probably go there after elimination.I thought Mr musk taught us that we can be capitalist and save the planet at the same time