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this post was submitted on 03 Apr 2025
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The only people that regularly say that Israel doesn't have a right to exist are stirring shit, it isn't a good faith argument. It never, ever, leads to a good conversation where everyone stays chill and on topic.
There's the implication that jews have no right to a homeland of some kind, which is probably why they attributed it to racism (antisemitism), but it isn't necessarily about that. It could be, I don't know your stance in that regard, but it's definitely anti Israeli, which is a fairly pernicious loophole, imo.
If you're saying that no nation has a right to exist, fine, cool, maybe saying that would have been a better choice. But you can't pretend you don't know that that rhetoric is also slung around by antisemites.
Now, I gotta add my usual warning here. This community isn't the place to debate the issue itself. I'm not going to go any further than what's needed to explain my opinion regarding PTB or not. There's a solid community for continuing to debate topics that get locked, and others for political debates in general, if that's your bag.
Edit: dog whistles and how they spread is not a new idea. I didn't come up with it. And, busy today This was released.
Anyone thinking that dog whistles shouldn't be removed by mods is blind. It's a major problem on the internet. It doesn't matter who or what the dog whistle targets, it's the fact that it is a tool of bigotry that spreads like a disease, even through places and people that aren't bigots. That's the problem with coded language. It's viral and pernicious.
The fact that anyone even saw the need to try and study it should be a clear indicator that when a mod, or a user scrolling by, sees a dog whistle in the wild like this, it can't just be shrugged off as unimportant.
Jews don't have the right to kill other people and steal their land. Nobody has a Reicht to do that. This is not a "controversial" viewpoint.
Well, as I said, I'm not debating any of that here. If you want to post about it somewhere that is appropriate for that conversation, ping me, and we'll talk about it.
Since when do we not talk about politics on Lemmy? That and posting about Linux is about the crux of Lemmy. Mods cannot decide censorship is warranted because they deem a subject "controversial".
But before you decide to respond I would recommend you watch at least the first 10 minutes of this video as adresses every argument you made.
Oh, talking about politics on lemmy is fine.
Pounding the political pulpit beyond the bare minimum necessary on this community is where it goes wrong.
And yes, actually, moderators absolutely get to decide what is and isn't appropriate content for their community. That's what a moderator is, the person or persons that curate a community.
And, yet a-fucking-gain, as I've already said, I'm not getting into debate about the subject itself here. I'm also not wasting my time with some random YouTube video as a proxy to that
You said that comments denying the right of Israel to exist should be removed. This cannot be followed up by refusing to elaborate. If there is anything wrong or racist about saying an Apartheid should not exist then you are welcome to back it up with claims.
I am of the opposite opinion that anyone who believes Israel has the right to exist is racist.
With all the complains about ".ml censorship" I would not expect this kind of arguments here. LW moderators having the power to censor for Israel does not mean they are not in the wrong for doing it.
No, I said your comment should be removed because it's a common antisemitic dog whistle
Your misleading and offensive conflation of zionism with judaism is what's actually antisemitic.
I was hoping you would have something more than "criticism of Israel is antisemitic" but I am not surprised and understand why you wanted to avoid the argument.
Have a good day.
Look, just because you haven't bothered to learn what a dog whistle is in this context doesn't mean it isn't the case
Look, just because you haven’t bothered to learn what Israeli propaganda is in this context doesn’t mean it isn’t the case
Really? You're running around repeating known dog whistles, and now you want to argue that pointing out dog whistles are propaganda?
Nah, at this point, you've down exactly who you are
Calling criticism of Israel a dogwhistle is known Zionist propaganda.
You are making it painfully obvious what your beliefs are but it is clear you dare not speak your mind.
So why are you still typing?