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Please, tell me how "paying for hardware costs is enough"...

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[-] shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lol 49 points 1 month ago

Rent comes before server. An outage is a wonderful motivator, turn that shit off.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I assume he's applying donations to the server costs first, then considers extra as profit/salary. We should be considering developer time as a core part of server costs, but I think people would react poorly if server donations went to personal expenses before server expenses.

I think one of the best thing hosts could do is be transparent about costs and how much time maintenance takes and what sort of effective wage they are getting.

[-] shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lol 10 points 1 month ago

I think people would react poorly if server donations went to personal expenses before server expenses.

The distinction is an illusion. If a person can't afford to live, and a part of their life is running a server, who gives a fuck which dollar goes where?

(Other than all the dipshits who offer 0 and demand anything more than nothing.)

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

It depends on if the shortfall in rent is coming from something server related. If stux is pulling a good salary for his hosting work and the shortfall just came from a different job falling through, that's a fine time to ask for donations, but not something people would feel warrants shutting down the server rather than taking out a loan.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 3 points 1 month ago

Or we could drop the whole idea of depending on "donations" and understand that admins like professionals who would like to make a living like everyone else?

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 month ago

I'm fine having the burden spread unevenly. I don't mind donating more so that a free platform is available to anyone who wants to use it. Whether something is funded by donations or fees is separate from whether the cost of people's time should be included in the revenue target.

this post was submitted on 26 Mar 2025
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