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Please, tell me how "paying for hardware costs is enough"...

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[-] rglullis@communick.news 26 points 1 month ago

Either their service provides people with enough value to donate to keep it running

You know what also works like that? Any other traditional business operation.

I am saying that since 2022: we only have a shot at this succeeding if we all start putting something at stake.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Are yall not sponsoring this project on patreon or otherwise?

I pitch in something like 1-2 bucks to desalines and a few bucks to .world every month.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 14 points 1 month ago

You are the exception, and you will find out that even the most prolific participants here claiming that $5 per year is enough to cover the hardware costs, so he doesn't see any reason to give more than that.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

If you see this go to the patreon rn and sign up for like, $1 a month.

[-] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

I didn't realize there was patrons for lemmy instances

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Shit aint free.

I mean when we were over at (the bad place), people were literally donating monthly to pay for server costs. (the bad place) in the early days was basically one giant instance.

except it didnt have a working video player. for-fucking-ever.

so I donate a bit to my mortal enemy @desalines and a bit to lemmy.world to keep the project going. Maybe 5 bucks a month between the two?

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Context for people reading this: https://feddit.org/post/2600584

Summary of the answers:

  • lowest number so far: lemmy.ml with 0.03€ per user per month
  • a few others (feddit.uk, lemmy.zip) have around 0.11$ per user per month

Recent discussion I had with rglullis: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40374812/17448295

[-] ruud@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

For lemmy.world / mastodon.world including some of the smaller instances we host, it's like 0,06 euro per active user per month. If every active user would pay 2 Euro per year that would be enough to cover hosting costs. If every active user would pay 1 euro per month, I could quit my dayjob and focus on the Fediverse fulltime.

(Sidenote: Stux and I created the non-profit Fedihosting Foundation which owns lemmy.world .. but finances are still separate for his and my instances)

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Thank you for providing data for LW, and thank you for your sysadmin work!

While we are talking, there have been occurrences of "power tripping" by some LW mods (e.g. https://lemmy.world/post/23229045/14411568?sort=New) , is there any mechanism to escalate this to you?

[-] ruud@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Sending e-mail to info at lemmy dot world would be the best option. The team will pick that up.

(By the way: 2 EUR per year would be enough if every active user would donate that but they don't)

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Thanks, I might send an email later.

By the way: 2 EUR per year would be enough if every active user would donate that but they don’t

Indeed. Have you thought about promoting this in an announcement post?

[-] rglullis@communick.news 0 points 1 month ago

Phrased another way: "I don't think you are allowed to make a living out of the work you do here, so thank you for accepting all this for free".

[-] rglullis@communick.news 0 points 1 month ago

The list of statements where you have the chance to share your values is still unanswered.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I answered here 5 days ago: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40374812/17470674

Which, for some reason, didn't make it to your instance? https://communick.news/comment/4930027

Both versions of the post also show 106 vs 105 comments, so there seems to be something here

[-] rglullis@communick.news 0 points 1 month ago

I specifically said "you can just say agree or disagree", so please don't come with that "It would take too much time".

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Please don't erase nuance from a conversation. Everything isn't yes or no answers.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 1 month ago

Please start with the yes or no, the nuances can come after you plainly state your opinion about how much the work of admins is valuable to you.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago
[-] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 1 month ago

No, thanks. I will not engage in any further discussion with you until you explicitly answer those statements.

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