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[-] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago

Lapis lazuli? Maybe not, but lithium mines are a constant source of criticism for those reasons, and your simplification of the world to an either or scenario is incredibly disingenuous.

If you think that people like Da Vinci and Michaelangelo had nothing to say, then you know nothing about artists. Da Vinci hated the Pope who commissioned the Sistine Chapel so much that he painted him burning in Hell directly behind the altar. He was a gay man who had relationships with his apprentices and performed illegal autopsies on bodies to study the human anatomy during a time when it was considered descecrating the dead, which formed the foundation of modern medicine's understanding of the human body.

You're just making excuses so you feel better about stealing the labor of others.

[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip -1 points 10 months ago

No one is making excuses, I'm just pointing out the hipocrisy of saying that the art is less valid because of the tools used.

And yes, I believe a person who has an artistic idea but not the skills to represent it should be able to do it though AI, just writing a prompt doesn't make it art just like drawing a sunflower very realistically doesn't make it art. Is music less art because it's made with a synth or in Ableton?

[-] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

No one is making excuses, I'm just pointing out the hipocrisy of saying that the art is less valid because of the tools used.

Good thing that's not something I said, then. So what you're doing is arguing a point that nobody said in order to reframe the actual argument into something different. Making excuses to avoid confronting the actual argument.

And yes, I believe a person who has an artistic idea but not the skills to represent it should be able to do it though AI

So do I. But if you're doing that with an LLM made by a company that's using unethically sourced training data to avoid paying the artists who made the art used for training, then you're buying into a system that exploits workers for your own convenience and that makes the art bad. AI slop isn't just slop because of the quality. It's also because it's wage theft. People respect the shitty napkin drawing more because, regardless of the quality, it shows that you were willing to put in the effort without the fancy tools while also not committing a corporation in the process.

[-] newfie@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago

you're buying into a system that exploits workers for your own convenience

The electronic device you used to make this post was also made by exploiting wage laborers for the benefit of capitalists. Yet, you found that device to be so convenient that you still bought and used it anyway. The same could be said for all of the other goods and services that you use.

Perhaps you should remove the beam from your eye before pointing out the splinter in anothers

[-] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago

Said electronic device is a requirement to hold a job in my country and ensure I don't end up homeless. It's the same as owning a car here. If you have neither a phone or a reliable form of transport (meaning a car in this public transit-less shithole of a country), getting and holding a job is incredibly difficult.

This is one of the reasons that the UN has considered access to the internet a basic human right as of the 2000s or so.

Owning a phone and using the orphan crushing machine to make funny pictures on the internet are not equal.

[-] newfie@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

The point is that the system itself is the issue. Calling out specific reasons for that is fine if you do so to call attention to its presence as the bigger systemic threat. But debating if one effect of capitalism is worse than another effect ignores the fact that we should be focusing on capitalism as a whole

AI can be bad only because capitalism is bad. Address the root cause

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