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[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Stop using youtube.

EDIT: A lot of people real fuckin triggered by this and looking for any excuse to keep using. Fucking addicts.

[-] reksas@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 weeks ago

not just stop, rip every half decent video from there and save it somewhere else. Losing everything in youtube is library of alexandria level loss.

[-] warm@kbin.earth 1 points 4 weeks ago

What else has such a catalog? Going to be hard to persuade creators to host their own content with ads and subscriptions.

[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

https://nebula.tv/

Lots of popular Youtubers are already there, and they strip the sponsor segments out of their content too.

[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago

I refuse to support them after they kicked Second Thought off the platform for supporting Palestinians over the GDF

[-] tomenzgg@midwest.social 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

First I'm hearing but that doesn't surprise me; it's probably better than most companies you could give your money to but, in any way they could, they don't do anything truly groundbreaking such that I can justify to myself giving money rather than just keeping said money in my pocket (and, in turn, much more likely to go to mutual aid, charities, non-profits, or coöperatively-owned or union-backed businesses).

They could have done a more traditional coöp, open-sourced their infrastructure (even if it was just the app.!), or really emphasized a particular stance or message they as a company would stand by…but they haven't done any of those. They basically are just offering up YouTube but as a streaming service. But that doesn't solve the myriad of issues that make a streaming service a business that (like most businesses) prey on their customers.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

The popular YouTubers are trash tho

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Most of them are literally Nazis. Anytime I go to youtube and finish a video all the suggested videos to watch after are obscene "anti-woke" trash.

The youtube to right-wing pipeline is real.

EDIT:

Here's after me watching an old Lightning Bolt music video. Six videos are related to Lightning Bolt, being live videos or music videos, but a solid four videos are all weird right-wing Nazi pipeline shit. One defending Trump and saying he has a plan, one lamenting the pushback against Tesla, one shitting on the new Snow White for being "woke," and one literally with the giant title "fuck your pronouns." Plus one old cartoon and an episode of Surrounded with one doctor vs. twenty anti-vax (I am not convinced this Surrounded show actually does anything helpful for any discourse.) I have watch history disabled so none of this comes from my watch history, this is the default that youtube gives to people.

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 1 points 3 weeks ago

Wow your YouTube recommendations are very different from mine.

[-] notnotmike@programming.dev 0 points 4 weeks ago

The top right video is a video absolutely dumpstering Tesla and calling it a worthless stock. Your recommendations will also highly depend on what video you were just watching, could it be that users who watch your video also happen to watch these other videos? Is that the platforms fault?

[-] Enkrod@feddit.org -1 points 3 weeks ago

The only way to pay for subscription is with a credit card, no thank you, my culture mostly doesn't use those and I don't have or want one.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 weeks ago

Not just catalog for viewing. What other platform can I use as cloud storage for video files for free? I have hundreds of hours of stuff uploaded there.

[-] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 weeks ago

Store on a hard drive instead.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago

They are all stored on local hdds, in fact I have two copies locally. I said it's my cloud storage, my backup off site.

[-] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds like you don't need cloud storage then.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago

Except I do, because I don't have off site storage. 3-2-1 my friend. If my house burnt down, without the cloud storage I'd lose everything. Separate local copies is good for defending against disk failure.

[-] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago

If your data isn't worth a few bucks to secure maybe it isn't worth the redundancies in the first place. Keep making excuses and hope they keep allowing you to access your data "for free" or at all.

[-] null@slrpnk.net -1 points 3 weeks ago

What other platform can I use as cloud storage for video files for free?

None. YouTube included.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, I do use YT as cloud storage for free. And before you say the "nothing is free line," note my other replies.

[-] null@slrpnk.net -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Nope. The admin of sh.itjust.works lets you use their storage for free. Google does not.

There are things that are free, Youtube is not one of them.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago

Okay, as I said in my other replies, the videos are unlisted, not monetized, and I don't pay for it. What is not free about that?

[-] null@slrpnk.net -1 points 3 weeks ago

Is money is the only thing about yourself that you ascribe value to?

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's not an answer to my question. What value are they getting from me?

[-] null@slrpnk.net -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Do you really not know how Google's business model works, or are you playing dumb?

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago

Why can you not give me a straight answer?

[-] null@slrpnk.net -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'll say this.

When I weigh the choice of handing over my personal videos to a company that is explicitly and actively going to use them to:

  • train and improve their massive corporate AI tools
  • develop their targeted ad platform (which is their real product)
  • build a comprehensive profile about me and my family

Or

Putting a NAS at a friends house, or paying a couple bucks a month for some block storage.

I end up preferring the second set of options. It's fine if you don't, but don't pretend you have no idea that your personal videos and information are valuable to Google.

[-] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

If as many people as possible self host their own peertube, even for just your own videos, it wouldn't replace youtube completely, but it would be a giant leap in the right direction.

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 0 points 3 weeks ago

The usual household has nowhere near the upload capacity to meaningfully stream videos.

[-] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 weeks ago

"As many people as possible" not the usual household.

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 0 points 3 weeks ago

Even most people hosting at home, which is already an incredibly small bubble, have only the default upload of something like 40Mbit which is more than plenty for internet usage and thus the only thing most providers supply, since people favour download speeds. You usually have to specifically order increased uploads speed, which not enough people do to build something that could serve as an alternative to youtube

[-] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago

Idk what to tell you man, I was just saying it would be cool if more people made a personal Peertube. Didn't say everyone and their mother needed to make one, just that it would be nice if as many people as possible could make one. Again, I get that it can be hard, or not possible for most people, but if more people could make one, and made one, that would be cool.

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