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Aaron Keller pledged to improve the game for "players who are playing now."

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[-] CraigeryTheKid@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

the game/steam release definitely deserved bad reviews - but it'd be hard to deny that it wasn't also a bombing run.

[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A review bomb is when people start jumping down the game's throat with negative reviews for shit unrelated/peripheral to the game. If they're triggered by the actual core design choices of the game it isn't a review bomb.

These reviews are because the game is a money grubbing downgrade from the game people bought and had taken away from them, and this is the first opportunity they had to publish a review on a storefront. The motivation being the actual game means it can't be a review bomb.

[-] ampersandrew@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

If they're still playing the game anyway, I might call that a review bomb.

[-] hook@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

No, it's still a review because you're still actively dealing with whatever it is you're complaining about.

"Hey, I really like/liked the core game play loop of this game but I think that it's gotten significantly worse than it was previously. It'd be nice if they changed it back?

4/10."

[-] 520@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Plenty of people leave negative reviews for games they otherwise play. Especially where big changes are put into effect

[-] ampersandrew@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That's the exact recipe for ensuring that they don't change it back.

[-] 520@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

That's depends on the business model. For one-off payment games, it still does considerable damage, whereas they don't gain much by you continuing to play.

For subscription games, your point stands much stronger.

[-] ampersandrew@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

It's a free to play multiplayer game. If you continue playing it, you're providing value for some other player who might spend money, so just by being in the matchmaking pool, they've got you where they want you, and they won't care about your review.

[-] NotTheOnlyGamer@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly. People need to vote with their wallets and PCs.

[-] cre0@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

So overwatch 2 is objectively terrible, but putting that aside for a moment…

Can you seriously not envision a scenario where you personally do a thing (maybe even enjoy that thing), but still wouldn’t recommend it to others?

[-] ampersandrew@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Can you seriously envision a scenario where the worst game of all time is among the most-played?

[-] cre0@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Ah okay I see you’re the kind of kid who answers a question with a question. 🤦‍♂️

Enjoy picking petty fights over… who likes which video game better. Not really my dig kiddo

[-] ampersandrew@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, I answered your question with a question because your scenario was as absurd as you perceived mine to be. So I'll answer yours directly: "yes, but not at that scale". Because at that scale, it's a review bomb.

[-] crossmr@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

So if General motors was using slave labour to build their cars and feeding said labour with baby kittens, would you consider it a review bomb for someone to say 'You shouldn't buy the latest vehicle from General motors because of the way it is made'?

What if general motors came out and said that they think a great start to the day is to wake up and punch a dutchman in the face?

A review is, ultimately, a recommendation of whether or not you think other people should buy this product. If you can't recommend it because of something the company who made it did, to me, it's still a review. Because recommending that product is recommending financial support of that company. Not recommending it, is not supporting them.

For me a real review bomb would occur generally only in a case where a site like 4chan might suddenly spin a wheel of mayhem and pick a random game to just go shit on or something like that.

[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

By definition, yes, that's a review bomb. It has no connection in any way to the quality of the product, which is what a review is.

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