As much as I dislike the Chinese Autocratig Regime, if they're right, then they're right.
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It's important to remember China's mindset is very much in the century of humiliation.
I kinda hate social media. It gives me anxiety and people make all sorts of assumptions from like a single comment.
The good parts are just seeing a random comment like this and then reading up on this. Like, I know very little about Chinese history despite being Chinese (ethnically) but growing up in the west myself.
It led me to watching this video: https://youtu.be/xD1nDGeiSAs
Thanks.
(of course I get a downvote ...)
It's worse than that.
Their cultural revolution and GLP caused EXTREME social paranoia.
Many are not stable, the damage caused a psychosis that causes them to distrust everyone and leads to self-destructive behavior.
The Taiwanese are an excellent contrast here, they are what the mainland should be, educated, happy, functional.
Yeah but our current position is perpetual humiliation
I’ll trade current event humiliation/nazism for the historical variant.
Germany and china are less fucked up than USA in 2025
Having lived in China for 12 years, I can confirm that you don't have a clue.
Having lived in other places for years I can confirm that you don’t have a clue.
Lmao China where CCP has can disappear you at any point without a trace ir justification? China that sponsors Putin? That China is less fucked?
China is still actively committing genocide against the Uyghurs so I’d would definitely not say the last one
Guys guys, settle down. Two countries can be horrible dictatorships which don't care about it's citizens human rights. It doesn't need to be a contest. Both of you have a popsicle and go play on the swings.
That's a bingo!
Buddy I didn’t deny anything about how our own government is actively an authoritarian regime or any of the shitty things it is doing. But we still are not at People’s Republic of China (PRC) levels yet. We do not actively censor the media on the same level as PRC where even the slightest hint of disapproval is enough to be disappeared, yes though the waters are being tested here. For now we still have elections on the state level that can mean something since more than one party can run. We are still allowed to protest here without just being shot on sight. We have an uncensored internet for the time being so I do think it is fair to say we are not as bad as the PRC.
The sacred rituals of Western civilization-- the election and the press-- were long ago subsumed by capital. You don't need to formally censor when the oligarchs own the media and will skew the messaging to serve their interest. You don't need to have a single party state when the Overton window has been dragged so far right that no electoral outcome can actually oust billionaire rule.
At least, in that context, we can ask who censorship serves? Is it about social cohesion and stability, or preserving the privilege of a handful of people?
In regard to China, it serves a handful of people. Specifically those Party members which less than 3% of the population and have enriched themselves and their families to create a perpetual ruler class at the expense of the other 1 billion.
Yeah but we’re actively genociding our own people and other countries peoples.
We’re technically even shittier
China is also supporting genocide abroad, they are helping prop up Putin’s war in Ukraine. Which Russia is kidnapping children to “reeducate them and give them proper parents” while slaughtering civilians. China is also a one party state and brutally suppresses any attempt at a protest. Their interest and their media are highly censored and any mention of criticizing the state can get you disappeared or sent to a “reeducation camp”.
I’m not dismissing the shitty things we have done and are doing. Nor am I denying we are actively flying towards the competitive authoritarianism that China has. But as of right now we are not as bad as China is.
Israel/Palestine
“China is also supporting genocide abroad, they are helping prop up Putin’s war in Ukraine.”
I understand that, my point on that was China is doing the same thing. And again not dismissing the things we are doing.
The US has dropped over 40 bombs a day for the last 20 years. China hasn't dropped a bomb in decades.
Yeah and McDonalds keeps genociding all those potatoes to make fries, its bullshit. What's genocide mean again?
Extermination of an ethnic, religious, or nationalist group
This can be achieved through murder, reeducation, banning cultural practices, or diluting the population so their customs become lost
Can people make up their mind if they are against or for religion already?
Religion is fine in the privacy of your own home or place of worship
It’s when it enters public life that it becomes a problem because then it’s infringing on other people’s rights
I don’t think any one supports persecution of the Uighur people, nor the Tibetan people, nor laying claim to Taiwan. It should be taken in the context of those that America persecutes. Currently that’s Palestinians, to an extent Venezuelans, and likely soon to be Ukrainians.
America did terrible things but seemed to want to be better. Now it is just doing terrible things and many revel in the evil.