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I'd rather developers don't support Linux than make Electron application and say "there we go, good enough right". Because it's not. When it comes to accessibility, no those applications are not better. You might be thinking their UI is easier to scale and increase contrast but literally none of them respect system theme, colors, font choices.
Some middleware is fine, however blindly importing just about anything is very dangerous and lazy. Cargo cult programming is so widespread am surprised hardware is keeping up with the demand. There's always the right tool for the job and the wrong tool for the job. Just because you can drive nails with a rock, doesn't mean you should, nor you see any carpenter doing it.
Hard disagree. I'd rather run an Electron application than having to side-load Windows for some application I actually need. Also, you don't have to install Electron applications, so if you want you can just pretend they don't support Linux.
Since when is theming aaccessibility? That's customizability.
But you can have your wishes easily. If you prefer no Linux support over an Electron app, just don't install the Electron app and you get the same result.
Consider yourself lucky that you are not visually impaired and need high contrast and/or large themes.
Again, how would not providing any Linux app at all be preferable over an Electron app? How would it lead to you having a better Linux app?
Because it's the easy way out. Just like if Valve's Proton ever gets good enough people will entirely stop making native ports. They will just ell you use Proton and you as a user lose in the long run.
Ok, what's your suggestion? Go back to a world before wine when Linux gaming was Tux Racer?
I much prefer solid, well working games with great performance delivered through Proton than no games at all.
The 90s called, they want their native-purism back.
You can downvote all you like. People will always take easier route, just how IE was default browser for decades just because people didn't have to install it and it was already there.
Easier route = electron app.
Yes, that's the easier route.
Most native Linux apps have absolutely shit keyboard navigation and screen reader support, if they even bothered testing it at all. So yes web apps are far better for accessibility.
I'm sick of purists who don't know they're talking about. If it was up to you there'd be zero growth in Linux and you'd actually be happy with that. Electron exists to put software on multiple OSes at low cost. It's a good thing. App devs are just jealous that they're getting replaced by web and mobile devs, both of whom they've shat on for decades.
Karma's a bitch. It isn't the 90s anymore, the time to move on and learn a worthwhile stack was 15 years ago. If you're so good then surely you can bring your genius level skills to a web team and show them how it's done.
You assumption that I am clueless just shows you have no idea what you are talking about so I'll end up all arguments there. If you wish to prove me wrong, find me one Electron based application which supports high contrast themes and actually took care not to use colors that are problematic to color blindness.
Microsoft Teams has a high contrast mode. Signal and Threema are both high contrast originally. That's all the electron apps I am consciously using.
And all of them natively support scaling up by pressing CTRL plus the + key.
They are actually much better in this regard than most native apps.