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  • Trump’s approval has taken a substantial swing of 9.6 points, from a net positive of 6.2 points in late January to a net negative of 3.4 points in mid-April.
  • Trump’s loss in support among Hispanic and young adults has been especially steep.
  • The president has not persuaded Americans that foreign countries and producers will bear the burden of higher tariffs, or that the gain will be worth the pain.
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[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is still deflecting from the issue I'm talking about. Everyone keeps bringing up what the DNC should have done differently, and you can make a long list of those things, but that is not my point.

My point is, people had a choice, regardless of how they felt about the choices, they could choose Trump or Harris. A large portion of people didn't pick either one. Those people accepted that they were ok with either choice, because if they weren't, they would have prevented the outcome they thought was worse. That is my point. People could have impacted the outcome and chose not to. If they don't like how things are going now, good. They need to remember this next time and realize that voting for the least shitty of the two will at least prevent the worst case scenario. Taking a stance and not voting to send a message doesn't really do shit when the guy you let in office wants to remove term limits and get rid of checks and balances while ignoring the constitution. But hey, I guess at least they feel good about not voting for anything remotely bad as the world burns.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is still deflecting from the issue I’m talking about. Everyone keeps bringing up what the DNC should have done differently, and you can make a long list of those things, but that is not my point.

Your point is to ignore that and blame the voters. Sure, why not. Let's concede your point. Great. Voters are at fault and the party has no responsibility to represent them, just to make a token effort to look like they care about being second worst to fascists once in a while.

The last three election cycles, we have run centrists against a reprehensible fascist. Two lost. One won, but it was a squeaker. democrats keep doing the same thing and expecting different results. Do you suppose the electorate is going to change? Do you suppose republicans are gonna come around?

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Your point is to ignore that and blame the voters.

Can you like, just not read? I said people should be represented.

Let’s concede your point. Great. Voters are at fault and the party has no responsibility to represent them

I never once said this. This is just you propping up this argument to avoid addressing any points I made. I said people who didn't vote did not take their opportunity to prevent this. That's just reality and facts my guy. If those upset you, I dunno what to say, you can try alternative facts, I hear republicans love those.

Do you suppose the electorate is going to change? Do you suppose republicans are gonna come around?

I dunno, but what I do know is you're not capable of having a conversation about those things. Why would I? You would just tell me how I feel and then insult me about it lol. You're not interested in a convo, you just want to mindlessly yell at someone without having to consider a new viewpoint at all. Just insult someone who disagrees, you sound like a republican for sure. And unable to address the actual topic, seems very republican too. Making up stuff I didn't say and using that in your argument, that seems very republican in nature. You must love where we're at huh? Everyone is acting like you.

Listen, you're too emotional and caught up in yourself to have an actual conversation. You can't help but make wild assumptions, put words in my mouth, and run away with concepts I don't even agree with. You are part of the problem with the system. You ignore reality and just yell how you feel a lot, yell about how the ideal world should be, without being grounded in reality at all or even being willing to discuss it. You look at the world like a child, and argue like one too. Unable to address actual points, so you just make up stuff and rant about it. You don't need me for that; you seem more than capable of arguing with yourself.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Listen, you’re too emotional and caught up in yourself to have an actual conversation.

Who has to change? The party or the voters? I think you'll find that the voters won't. The party must.

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