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The Call to Execute Luigi Mangione Is Indefensible
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this post was submitted on 16 Apr 2025
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The judge and the enforcers are empowered by the State. The attorney is empowered by the Bar Association. The jury is a collection of Luigi's peers to provide unanimous judgement.
This is not Luigi vs a room full of random people. This is Luigi vs The United States of America and Luigi vs New York State. We all collectively participated in the system that wrote these laws and how to enforce them, or at least I hope we do.
If you don't like how it works? Good, go pursue political action unlike Luigi.
Still a not a valid argument. It is an argument of authority, a typical logical fallacy. Just because a group of people is reputable and says it right does not mean it is right. I mean a possible jail sentence would be as adequate to prevent him from doing it again, as a counter example. So the argument for killing him would basically narrow down to "because authorities said it is okay".
Not everything is a fallacy because it is an appeal to authority, it becomes a fallacy when an otherwise illogical choice is appealed to simply because of authority.
When somebody murders another person it is wrong, and it then falls on the public to decide what the best course of action is to prevent such things from happening again to people, including people like themselves. They decided a long time ago that the death sentence was easier than caging a man for life. Now you can try to argue that this is illogical, but you haven't, you've simply argued that the public is wrong without any reasoning.
Not just a reputable group of people, the public as a whole. Democracy. JFC, did you even read my reply?
Inderd I did. You started with:
This is why I mentioned possible jailtime in my previous comment as a lesser evil and made the point that your represented pov is a logical falacy as it is based on a non existing moral dilemma. So the only thing it represents is an argument of authority.
The bigger question here and this I think is what subcontiously resonates with this this story is why do you even punish and I think there are three partly compeeding answers.
First because you want to avoid such thing from happening again
Secondly because you try to scare people from doing the same
Thirdly because you want fellons to reflect on there behavior and give them a path to redemption
For the second goal I point at the fact that it happened although this sentence is possible.