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Why care about the no-JS experience?
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this post was submitted on 05 May 2025
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I've done more than 18 years of dev work. I only hate js. All the other parts of the job are fine. Other languages are fine as well. I've had to learn so many. Hell I know cobol right along side ruby.
Js sucks. It sucks to debug. Its frameworks still have issues with basic stuff like many to many relationships.
All the solutions that don't use or use it sparingly work for years. The ones that rely on the language usually die a firey death by npm/yarn or get deprecated within 6 months.
Js frameworks make php frameworks seems stable efficient and logical by comparison.
Yikes.
Modern day php and laravel is actually not terrible.
But yeah I agree with you.
Laravel is shit.
I can believe it became popular only because devs don't care about the code.
Not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean ORMs? Which one and when did you try it?