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[-] Allero@lemmy.today 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Same argument was already made around 2500BCE in Mesopotamian scriptures. The corruption of society will lead to deterioration and collapse, these processes accelerate and will soon lead to the inevitable end; remaining minds write history books and capture the end of humanity.

...and as you can see, we're 4500 years into this stuff, still kicking.

One mistake people of all generations make is assuming the previous ones were smarter and better. No, they weren't, they were as naive if not more so, had same illusions of grandeur and outside influences. This thing never went anywhere and never will. We can shift it to better or worse, but societal collapse due to people suddenly getting dumb is not something to reasonably worry about.

[-] wwb4itcgas@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Almost certainly not, no. Evolution may work faster than once thought, but not that fast. The problem is that societal, and in particular, technological development is now vastly outstripping our ability to adapt. It's not that people are getting dumber per se - it's that they're having to deal with vastly more stuff. All. The. Time. For example, consider the world as it was a scant century ago - virtually nothing in evolutionary terms. A person did not have to cope with what was going on on the other side of the planet, and probably wouldn't even know for months if ever. Now? If an earthquake hits Paraguay, you'll be aware in minutes.

And you'll be expected to care.

Edit: Apologies. I wrote this comment as you were editing yours. It's quite different now, but you know what you wrote previously, so I trust you'll be able to interpret my response correctly.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes, my apologies I edited it so drastically to better get my point across.

Sure, we get more information. But we also learn to filter it, to adapt to it, and eventually - to disregard things we have little control over, while finding what we can do to make it better.

I believe that, eventually, we can fix this all as well.

[-] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 3 months ago

1925: global financial collapse is just about to happen, many people are enjoying the ride as the wave just started to break, following that war to end all wars that did reach across the Atlantic Ocean...

Yes, it is accelerating. Alvin Toffler wrote Future Shock 45 years ago, already overwhelmed by accelerating change, and it has continued to accelerate since then. But these are not entirely new problems, either.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I mean, Mesopotamian scriptures likely didn't foresee having a bunch of dumb fucks around who can be easily manipulated by the gas and oil lobby, and that shit will actually end humanity.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

People were always manipulated. I mean, they were indoctrinated with divine power of rulers, how much worse can it get? It's just that now it tries to be a bit more stealthy.

And previously, there were plenty of existential threats. Famine, plague, all that stuff that actually threatened to wipe us out.

We're still here, and we have what it takes to push back. We need more organizing, that's all.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Well, it doesn't have to get worse, AFAIK we are still headed towards human extinction due to Climate Change

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Honestly, the "human extinction" level of climate change is very far away. Currently, we're preventing the "sunken coastal cities, economic crisis and famine in poor regions" kind of change, it's just that "we're all gonna die" sounds flashier.

We have the time to change the course, it's just that the sooner we do this, the less damage will be done. This is why it's important to solve it now.

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