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My partner doesn't do much on the computer except web browsing and writing. The Scrivener writing program had a Linux version at some point that was abandoned.

I wanted to see if anyone personally has used Scrivener with Wine and if it is fussy or not. How has your experience been?

I could set it up for them, but they're not a tech person and will probably reject Linux if it breaks all the time and they have to get me to come fix it.


Extra irrelevant info: trying to decide on having them try Mint or Ubuntu. Fedora is my daily driver and I typically use a headless Debian install for servers, but I heard Mint and Ubuntu are pretty perfect and low fuss for Windows users.

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[-] thedarkfly@feddit.nl 61 points 1 year ago

I haven't tried Scrinever. What follows is about trying to convert people to Linux, you can safely ignore the comment if you're not interested.

If the will doesn't come from him, he will certainly look for things he doesn't like and that will confort him in staying on Windows.

I'd say keep him informed and let him make his decisions with the information he has.

[-] Catasaur@lemmy.catasaur.xyz 34 points 1 year ago

That's a good and sadly realistic point.

I read a forum post back in the day about a guy that forced his wife and kids to use FreeBSD and they hated it. It was pretty funny but I also don't want to be that guy

[-] fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

Exactly. No one wants their autonomy removed regardless of whether it’s arguably in their interest or not. It sucks the joy out of it.

[-] n00b001@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, it's just consent

If someone has the knowledge and examples that OP does, I'm sure they may come to the same conclusion

But jumping to the end without taking the other party on the journey results in forcing someone to do something that they might not want, or be ready for

[-] socphoenix@midwest.social 11 points 1 year ago

My wife is basically tech illiterate and has 0 desire to ever use something that doesn’t just work out of the box. We’ve moved some of her software to foss (darktable over Lightroom due to their stupid subscription only model) but she’s really only comfortable on a MacBook and even then only after I’ve set the whole thing up and maintain software/os updates.

macOS also sucks for smb file shares so I have a FreeBSD jail that just does xrdp and ssh X-11 forwarding (better color matching for photos this way) and she runs a script disguised as a desktop shortcut to run her apps. The script launches an ssh session and pops up a simple program I wrote that just lists available apps like darkroom. Gives her native file speeds and 0 need to understand anything related to the OS. My rambling point here is unless you set it up so the SO doesn’t need to learn it’s likely to fail and in return you’ll be responsible for all of the maintenance. Unless you’re ok with that it’s probably not a good idea

[-] skilltheamps@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

In my experience, not pushing it makes them want to try it themselves at some point. I guess you need to take care of their computer frequently enough, and are probably annoyed by Windows shitting its pants every time again. Don't make any drama out of it, just point out how ridiculous it is that Microsoft cannot manage to build something that allows running two simple programs without breaking or nagging the user so often. They know that you use something else with which you're happy with, and at some point they will become curious and ask wheter they can have it too. At that point do not promise much, say that it works a lot better but is also a lot different and sometimes a bit quirky. Do not rush it now, let them simmer in their curiousity. At a fitting occasion tell them very briefly about foss and how it is not a closed thing pushed by a corporation onto individuals to funnel data. When they ask if they can try it, tell them they can but it takes a bit of getting used to. Buy a new SSD, and safely store the previous storage in a anti static bag, exclaiming that everything is on there and cannot get lost due to linux. Set everything up with a dead easy DE, give clear tour of how stuff works. With this tactic, they want to get it to work by themselves, and are prepared to learn that some things work differently. It becomes an adventure that is totally revertable if it doesn't work out. In contrast to when you want to force the change and they use everything as a reason to be unhappy about it.

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