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The Catholic Church has issued a warning to its clergy in Washington state: Any priest who complies with a new law requiring the reporting of child abuse confessions to authorities will be excommunicated.

https://www.newsweek.com/catholic-church-excommunicate-priests-following-new-us-state-law-2069039

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[-] Photuris@lemmy.ml 98 points 10 months ago

Imagine if any other type of organization had this sort of systemic problem with child abuse.

“Wow, there sure are a lot of pedophile employees at Apple Computer abusing their customers’ children.”

“Dang, the US Department of Transportation sure does have a kiddie diddler problem.”

“Holy shit, what’s the deal with all the abusive perverts working at Ronald McDonald House?”

Sounds absolutely bonkers, right‽

If any secular organization was having this kind of problem at scale, we’d all be calling for their blood. Yet the church gets a pass somehow. A few complaints, a few lawsuits, some big scandals, some negative press, but fundamentally nothing ever changes.

To hell with the church.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 26 points 10 months ago
[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 10 months ago

Do the Boy Scouts have a legally protected mechanism to talk with each other about their child fucking that I’m not aware of?

[-] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They do not. Your point of distinction is valid.

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca -1 points 10 months ago

Like a Signal chat? Wtf are you even asking?

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

I’m talking about how Catholic priests can legally refuse to report child abuse revealed to them in confessional in most states, the subject of this post.

[-] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

I think Boy Scouts have done a better job reforming than the Catholic church.

[-] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

That’s affiliated with the church so it’s probably ok.

[-] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

You're out of date. A lot of scouts exist apart from churches now. Hypocritically, the churches are distancing themselves from scouts which have reformed.

[-] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

I just looked it up off the back of your comment, things have changed since I was a scout.

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Wasn't their founder Lord Baden-Powell a nonce?

[-] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They do affiliate themselves with Christianity - maybe not Catholicism specifically, but the Catholic Church is hardly the only denomination of this cult that can’t keep their hands/mouths off of kids’ genitals.

Frankly if I ever had kids I’d have a gaggle of drag queens babysit before I let any even slightly religiously affiliated group near them.

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

Same here. Leary of any adult dude who wants to hang out with kids that don’t include their own child in the mix.

[-] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I think you should make some exceptions. Youth (including scouts) need mentors to develop skills. Just because my kids age won't change that. I'll still feel the Call. It's very rewarding to see a kiddo grow. Totally redefined my concept of "legacy".

[-] 5715@feddit.org 12 points 10 months ago

I don't want to derail the discussion, but Churches aren't the only organisation attracting/raising child sexual abusers. Sports clubs are an example for secular organisations facing a similar problem.

Sports clubs on the other hand don't have this kind of power and history as organised religion.

Sports clubs would simply be banned, but try to ban the Catholic Church in a place with a Catholic majority.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I mean, you joke, kind of, but a massive, MASSIVE amount of QAnon bullshit that drives current rightwingers in the US is literally nothing but inventing fake demonic pedophile cults and putting anyone they don't like in these made up cults...

All so that they can demonize others, and what this functionally does is give these nutjobs an infinite well of whataboutisms to either shift a conversation about pederasty and child abuse in any christian church/sect ... over to 'the even worserer badderer people'...

...or just do something akin to a 'no true scotsman' and claim that anyone in any church who is a pedo or child abuser... well actually they're not a real christian, they're a secret demonic cult member who is embedded in the organization to both commit evil and also to discredit the church when they are exposed.

The purpose of a system is what it does, not what it claims to do.

These people invented what is essentially their own new religion, a religion dlc, which entirely serves as a mechanism to avoid and make impossible discussions of actual child sa, abuse, going on in the institutions they revere.

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