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Currently users you block can still see your posts, reply to those posts, and trigger notifications when they do reply.

You can read the beginning of messages people you have blocked in your notifications tab, but have to unblock users to see the rest of what everyone else reading the replies to your post can see.

A "blocking" feature that is only inconvenient to the blocker is worse than no blocking feature at all, equivalent to trying to escape a fistfight by turning invisible but actually just closing your eyes.

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[-] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

They're not eavesdropping, you're shouting in a public space. You don't get to control other people. If you want that type of control then you should be on your own personal page on social media. Because that is not how public forums have ever worked, nor is it how they're supposed to work.

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

This isn't a public square. This is a private website. This is not how we decide where our taxes go, nor is it backed by any government.

If you were in public and a person started following you around as you had a conversation (even if that conversation was with everyone in the world except the bad actor) you could walk away and take the conversation with you.
If the harasser kept following you, you could firmly ask them to leave you alone, then start creeping your hand toward whatever weapon you keep on your person.

According to you, a person should not be able to post their Eid spread without every reply in the thread getting @ed Islamophobic venom?
A person cannot ask for latke recipes without everyone who has one being @ed antisemitism?
A woman cannot post a thread about a great picnic she just had with her wife without everyone replying "Nice cheese spread!" being bombarded with @s calling the women in the OP men?

Do you see how your—in my view, flawed—position sures up dominate power structures and discourages identities which are marginalized (and tend to be the victims of harassment) from speaking?

[-] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This isn't a public square. This is a private website. This is not how we decide where our taxes go, nor is it backed by any government.

It's a private website, but it is a public space. Restaurants are privately owned, but legally are considered public spaces. It's the same with social media

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

So if you were having dinner in a restaurant with your special someone [just pretend you have one if you have to] and I simply don't like you (and not because you were a nazi or a politician trying to strip me of healthcare—both categories of people should be ran out of public at every chance—I just didn't like you) you would have no problem with me sitting down at your table and butting in to your conversation to say you were wrong about the truffle butter?

If you were having dinner and said how much you liked your steak well-done—in public mind you—you wouldn't mind if I kept telling everyone around you that you're a piece of shit who ruins cuts of meat?

[-] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Is not a matter if I have a problem or not. You can make a scene in public all you want, the place staff will ask you to leave if you do not behave accordingly to social norms

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

So you want to rely on the staff to maintain your peace?

You wouldn't want to have me fuck off at the press of a button?

Sounds like your way is what I described with extra steps.

[-] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

So you want to rely on the staff to maintain your peace?

Yeah, is their responsibility

You wouldn't want to have me fuck off at the press of a button?

That's what the block button does. We already told you multiple times blocking is working as intended. You simply are behaving like a Karen

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Block button closes your eyes. I'd still be there not fucking off.

Interesting the person advocating for keeping arguments going is calling the person who wants to be able to end them a karen.

[-] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Block button closes your eyes. I'd still be there not fucking off.

If I block you you, then you are invisible to me. I don't care about what you do if I don't have to bear with you.

If you are a troll or someone who who systematically breaks the rules, people will report you and the staff (the mods) will tell you to fuck off, by banning you

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

That sounds like the same justification one sibling uses to justify hovering a finger a millimeter away from another sibling's face:

"You can't tell 'cause I'm not touching you!"

[-] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Except for the fact I will never see or touch that finger because I made it to vanish

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago
[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Everyone else sees a dude making rude gestures behind your head.

[-] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

and why should I care? is not my problem anymore. Maybe you should learn to give zero fucks about what others do instead to overreact

Edit. I have a nice song from the Simpsons for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlKao_Pox5A

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

So to be clear, you'd be fine with someone following you around with a sign stating you fuck dogs, so long as you couldn't see it?

[-] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, It says more about that person than about me.

Imagine not having anything better to tho than follow me with a sign... that's really REALLY lame, I'm a nobody, following a nobody would be beyond pathetic. Why would I spend any energy on someone who is willing to downgrade themself to that level? I have pride, I'm worth more than that.

At the end that person will got tired of following me and not receiving any attention that they will leave because I did not give that person any power over me.

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

It says you fuck dogs about you, and a bunch of people will see you not challenging the assertion because they don't know you can't see it.

They might think you fuck dogs, or ask you about fucking dogs constantly and then you have to bust out your "Not Involved In Fucking Dogs" T-shirt but we both now that will lead people to asking questions already answered by the shirt.

[-] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

They might think you fuck dogs

But I don't, and I know it, that's more than enought. The only opinion I care is my very own opinion

or ask you about fucking dogs constantly and then you have to bust out your

If people is too dumb to believe that it's a waste of time to try to convince them. I don't waste my time with dumb people

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You're wasting your time on my dumb ass.

[-] Gordon_Freeman@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Nah, we are maintaining a civilized conversation. As soon as you start insulting me I'll block you, don't worry

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I tried that once and—as triggered this entire thread—notification from replies continued to vex me.

I would also—while not knowing how you typically utilize your time—dispute that you aren't wasting it.
You could be learning Mandarin right now and instead you're conversing with an annoying faggot.

Whatever bloats your moat, I guess.

[-] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think you're well-meaning but not understanding the topic. This is a public square, regardless of its private ownership. And you can stop hearing any of their harassment by hitting the block button, which is exactly it's purpose. And if anyone is being abusive there's a report button so the mods of the forum can ban them.

I also think we're the only people still seeing this conversation now, and I think neither of us is gonna convince the other of anything. So I'll just say i wish good things for you and maybe or paths will cross again some day. =)

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I think you are misunderstanding what "public square" means, as well I question how familiar you are with the harassment marginalized identities tend to face, nor what improves the lived experiences of said people.

Website that allow actual blocking have always made for better user experience in my ...experience

I do not wish specific good things for you, past the peace and prosperity I desire for all intelligent life.

The "Good day." I am about the deliver does not contradict my above statement against wishing you specific good; it's part and parcel the P&P mentioned just below there that everybody gets (as well an acknowledgement our conversation is over).

Good day.

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