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I agree with this applied to those in power. But our family and neighbors can come back from this with a little humble empathy from us when they do.
How far do things have to go before "humble empathy" towards those actively supporting the US regime becomes inappropriate? Gas chambers? War against Canada? Nuclear war?
The stakes have never been higher, and personally I'm not willing to humbly give the benefit of the doubt to someone who literally voted for Hitler. They are either dumb as a fucking brick or more likely (according to Trump's polling) they are actively seeking harm against their own neighbors and relishing on the fact that the regime is gleefully committing as many human rights violations as it can get away with.
We've done the "just forget about it and move on" strategy, and it led to Trump being reelected even harder. Maybe when this is over (whenever that is) we go back to the tried-and-true strategy of fucking shaving everyone of these wastes of breath down to the bone to expose their crimes.
I am by no means saying we "forget about it and move on."
Empathy is not forgiveness. Empathy is not returning to the status quo. There is rampant mental illness in this country on "both sides" and we need to learn how to move forward together without forgetting what happened or we aren't going anywhere. We barely knew what mental health even was after WW2.
There will be those that are too far gone and those who actively wished for the pain of others. Those are special cases, but the majority of Trump voters voted out of fear, not hate. If you believe it was more about hate; Congratulations you've been successfully propagandized.
[citation needed]
Here's one: As of April 30th 14 % of Americans think Trump hasn't gone far enough with the unconstitutional deportation and rendition of immigrants to El Salvador's concentration camps. Another 33 % of Americans think it's "been about right". 52 % oppose it.
I do not see how it is possible to interpret that any other way than Americans are voting and supporting this administration out of hate. This isn't about the price of eggs. This isn't about voting "out of habit". When asked, specifically, about the horrific and hateful practices that are most emblematic of Trump's discourse of wanton hatred, half of American people actively support it.
Think whatever the hell you want about how to deal with that, but I draw the line at giving these people the benefit of the doubt. They don't deserve it, and they would not do the same for you.
Polls are insanely subjective. I don't think they should be used as evidence for anything. The majority of Trump supporters are not bad people, but I bet CNN would like you to believe they are.
As far as that citation, I don't have one. But I know that virtually no one sees themself as a bad person. We're all just trying to survive and protect the people we love.
I know we're all emotional because this is a fucked up time to be living through, but the ruling class wants us hating as much of our class as possible. We can't give in to that.
I never said anything about benefit of the doubt. I'm saying when they realize they fucked up, treat them with the dignity and respect that every human deserves. And if they never stop being shit people... Fuck 'em.
I'm prepared to give that empathy while also, now, recognizing in my life that these are toxic people and their political stances are harming other innocent people, and all of us as a country. Personally I'm holding even my closest loved ones at a distance until they develop empathy themselves. An ignorant villain is still a villain
Nope.