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[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago

pizzacake is a woman with opinions. misogynists hate her for that. One time, she didn't handle that very well. Lots of people got banned on reddit. Now people here mostly bitch about her comics being "low effort" and such, which mostly just reveals "I don't have a legit argument to hate this person so I'm going to pointlessly criticise her work instead."

As I've said in another comment, if some rando did the same scenario in ragemaker and posted it, everyone would be all over how relatable it is.

That said, it is possibly to simply not like the artstyle, or to not find the scenario relatable, or whatever criticism a person might have. Divorced of context, those criticisms sound valid. With context though, it becomes obvious that it is popular to persecute pizzacake.

[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

persecute

Y'all have got to join us in reality.

Yes, there are some misogynists who hate pizzacake because she is a woman exercising her agency.

That is not the majority of pushback against her, just the most disgusting and vocal.

The vast majority of criticism of pizzacake is towards her lack of punchlines, constant strawmanning, the unbelievable sycophants who follow and worship her and have turned the relevant subreddit into basically /r/ChurchofPizzacake, and for pizzacake's pattern of poor behavior in interactions on reddit and elsewhere.

There is a lot of grossness surrounding the entire pizzacake topic, yes, that's undeniable. But to effectively chalk up all or most of the criticism as misogyny when a healthy majority of it sticks to the content of her comics or conduct in direct interactions rather than any extracurricular activities she may engage in, is just disingenuous as fuck.

[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I should clarify, I'm not claiming that everyone who is criticizing pizzacake is a misogynist. I am however saying that it is popular among misogynists to bully women artists and call it "criticism", thus, the presence of certain kinds of criticism indicates an increased likelihood that the "critic" is actually a misogynist, even if the criticisms at face value are legitimate.

I shouldn't need to have a law degree to write a comment in a comics forum.

[-] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago

Ah, I remember having these arguments about whether Star Wars 7 should have let Rey be a woman. Uh, I mean, a Mary Sue.

[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

The parallels are stark indeed. Divorced of context, it's perfectly reasonable to accept the argument that Rey is a poorly written character (because she is). Normal, well adjusted people were able to accept that the sequel trilogy sucks for numerous reasons, Rey being a poorly written character being one of them, and then move on. The problem with this criticism isn't the criticism itself, but rather the people who bang on and on and on about it reveal that they didn't have a problem with the writing, they had a problem with a female character having agency.

"Mind what people do, not just what they say, for deeds will betray a lie."

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

turned the relevant subreddit into basically /r/ChurchofPizzacake...

  1. I'm not on Reddit, I don't care what the subreddit is like.

  2. fans of [thing] are on the subreddit of [thing] saying how much they like [thing]?! I guess I should hate everything then!

Your grasping at straws here man.

[-] gurnu@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

For some reason PCC:s supporters never mention that she threatened to sue a subreddit for making fun of her comics. "One time she didn't handle that very well" that's putting it very mildly. PC is just toxic

[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Is that what the narrative is now? I think the critics would have mentioned it last time, they were very thorough and even cited sources.

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I didn't know who she was or her gender when I said I hate her art style is almost as much as Ben Garrison's.

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