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https://feddit.org/post/12851368

https://feddit.org/post/12529640

due to the previously communicated defamation campaign by quokk.au, which was later followed by defederation by them after we requested them to remove their censure, we have now defederated from quokk.au.


One of the triggers for the current debate is this post, which followed the removal of a comment comparing National Socialism with the current situation in Israel, which can be considered a trivialization of National Socialism. Such statements can, among other things, lead to imprisonment. Among other things, the post claimed that the removal had a Zionist motive, an accusation that should always be supported by appropriate evidence and prior to which it should be ruled out that there are alternative explanations.

We will not be removing every comment that goes even remotely in this direction, but we reserve the right to permanently ban users from feddit.org who make unfounded accusations, such as labeling our instance, admins, moderators, or other users as Nazis or Zionists, without substantial supporting arguments. This is especially the case when this is recurring behavior and not an isolated incident.

If this censure by quokk.au is not withdrawn in a timely manner, we will defederate quokk.au from our side for these unsubstantiated and untrue accusations.

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[-] Blaze@piefed.social 30 points 2 weeks ago

Comments for this post are disabled, as we don’t expect any constructive discourse here, and we don’t want to create another comment section for terrorism advocates, genocide deniers, holocaust trivializers etc. There are already plenty other posts where discussion can take place.

Not sure how to feel about this.

[-] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I feel badly about it. Zionists are fascists, and the Nakba is like the Holocaust. People should be able to say that. They should also be able to say Hamas is not conducting a genocide (because they don't have enough guns to do what they want). I don't support terrorism but I do think we should be conducting targeted strikes against IDF military assets without involving civilians, and I think the terrorism advocacy is mostly coming from Zionists.

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[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

Every time I feel like feddit.org is going into the right direction, shit like this pops up. Marvellous.

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago

It's an unbelievably stupid decision imo. Talk about tone deaf.

[-] griD@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

Just FYI: There are laws in DE concerning Holocaust denial, relativism etc. The subject is tricky to say the least. I understand the feddit.org mods don't want to find themselves in court because some edgelords went on a rampage. They are already cursed enough moderating ich_iel ;)

Personally, I feel the whole discussion regarding Israel/Gaza is extremely difficult in Germany, even at my Stammtisch. The underlying reason is obviously found in our history, though the consequences of that history are misunderstood. Never again means never again, I don't care who commits the atrocities.

[-] Blaze@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

Should Lemmy.world apply the same standards as they are hosted at Hetzner?

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

politics is starting to become problematic, they used similar message in why they "removed or banned comment"

[-] griD@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Honestly, I wouldn't know. Not a lawyer in international internet affairs :) Interesting question though.

[-] Blaze@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago

That was the question raised by people when feddit.org came up with that policy. A lot of Lemmy instances are hosted at Hetzner, but feddit.org is the only one this policy.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The way it's worded, it makes it sound that anyone opposed to their POV is one of "terrorism advocates, genocide deniers, holocaust trivializers etc." I'm hoping it's just unfortunate wording.

[-] Microw@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

Unfortunate wording, if you saw the comment sections on past posts on that drama you'd know the kind of people they mean with that

[-] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Israel is a terrorist state and those mods defend that

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

They are not here to have a discussion

They are just following orders

Their MO has been throughly exposed

A discerning shit poster should take note and avoid their communities, that's how federation works. When they bully noobs, educate them on the fedi lore 🐸

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 0 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Blaze@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

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