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[-] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 187 points 1 year ago

The bias is justified. The left is correct. Markets don't create wealth without necessarily simultaneously creating poverty

[-] grilled_cheese_eater@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Nuh, uh. Markets controlled by Oligarchs who spend billions to erode social safety nets do. A market socialist economy with strong regulations and systems like a UBI wouldn't create poverty, while still being a market (albeit a very different one to what we have today). Albeit I do think that for many things (like healthcare) having a market of any kind is just dumb.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Markets controlled by Oligarchs who spend billions to erode social safety nets do.

And where do these billionaires come from? Do they just spring out of the ground?
Oligarchs are a feature of capitalism, not a flaw.
A market with a UBI would simply increase rent by the UBI amount. Markets in capitalism exist to extract wealth, it is what they encourage. Thus they will support those that are best at extracting wealth, which leads to the creation of those billionaires.

[-] grilled_cheese_eater@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I said market socialist. In a market socialist economy there would be no billionaires. Also housing is an absolute necessity, which means it shouldn't be governed by a market at all, no matter the economic system. Only things outside of staple foods, a roof over your head, utilities, drinking water, healthcare and other things absolutely necessary for your continued survival, can (not should) be governed by a market, and one that doesn't funnel money upwards.

Capitalism in any form is absolutely horrible and should not exist.

Also, creating artificial demand should be banned.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

There's already one long-ass discussion about market socialism in this thread, so I'm not gonna start another, but glad to hear your perspective!

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