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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/05/elon-musk-democrats-donald-trump-00389961

centrist democrats oppose progressives and kiss nazi elon's ass.

Your "durr everyone to my left is all the way to my right" shit makes me wonder where you are in the queue.

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

centrist Democrat. singular. one.

"tHe DeMoCrAtS LoVe ElOn" is a bullshit propaganda talking point. this is how propaganda works, and yall be falling for it.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

I counted two in the article.

In addition to a few downplaying it in this thread.

[-] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

*Rep Ro Khanna is trying to kiss his Nazi ass

The only other Dem mentioned in the article that you can try pinning that statement on simply said that he's "a believer in redemption", but that's it really.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Do you believe in the redemption of elon musk?

Because I'm seeing the party that spent a whole assed year ignoring the Leahy law in order to sell weapons for genocide looking at a nazi and being like "you know, he's not that bad."

[-] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I believe that people have the capability of committing wrong-doings, even atrocities, only to come around later and realize that they were in the wrong and can attempt to make up for it in life.

Do I believe that Elon Musk has redeemed himself? No. I do believe he has the capability to do so though, eventually. Do I believe that he should receive punishment for his wrongdoings? Yes. Same for Trump.

In regards to the statement about Dems siding with Nazis, don't use labels to throw everyone under the same blanket and judge them all equally harshly. Everyone is an individual, and their actions should be judged as such. If there's a Democrat that acted in such a way, by all means call them out and we'll all hate on them together.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

In regards to the statement about Dems siding with Nazis, don’t use labels to throw everyone under the same blanket and judge them all equally harshly.

I will judge anyone who sides with nazis harshly. Minimizing it like you're doing just gives others cover to also side with nazis.

[-] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago

I'm not minimizing anything. Please do judge the individuals harshly. Just don't throw others under the same judgement due to belonging to the same label, i.e. Dems. Not sure how that message didn't go through last comment. Your rage is clouding reason.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Just don’t throw others under the same judgement due to belonging to the same label, i.e. Dems.

For the last quarter of the biden administration, I saw the establishment wing of the democratic party openly and happily violate US law in order to play arms dealer for netanyahu's genocide.

Nazis like elon must be opposed, democrats just spent a solid year demonstrating that they will absolutely go along with the worst of humanity's every whim if it means thy get campaign donations. They must not do that with nazis in an environment in which we already have one nazi party. I will make no excuses for them and will scream abuse at their worthless nazi asses until my lungs no longer function.

Collaborationism must not be allowed to spread.

[-] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

Seems we have moved on from discussing the article. Agreed that the Dems handled the Israel/Palestine issue very poorly, and that's an understatement, though specifically Biden and Harris - They should have been proper leaders against the atrocities that occurred, and others that didn't stand up to make an anti-Israel stance showed their true colors and shouldn't be allowed back into office.

Back on topic though, the entire Dem party is not kissing Elon's ass. There was one in the article that did, but that's it.

If you wish to make some change, you'll need to learn how to stay on topic and not let your anger take over so easily. Others in the world won't engage with you otherwise, and you'll end up only preaching to the choir. At least you'll be on the right side of history, so long as the history books are written accurately.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Seems we have moved on from discussing the article.

The article is just the latest in a pattern of rightward movement by the party. A pattern that includes selling weapons for genocide.

Back on topic though, the entire Dem party is not kissing Elon’s ass. There was one in the article that did, but that’s it.

There were two by my count, plus the founder of centrist democrats' anti-progressive "welcomefest" get together

It should be zero. It's shameful that none of the people who are jumping at the chance to work with a nazi weren't immediately censured or kicked out of the party. But it's not like they're someone truly nefarious like David Hogg.

[-] skepticalifornia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

No one in your linked article is a leader in the party - just a lot of conjecture there to make the Dems the bad guys and reinforce the "both parties are the same" narrative that your ilk like to spread.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

No one in your linked article is a leader in the party

I didn't say they were. They seem to be choosing a leader who is in line with centrist values. Which is to say, he has money and is a reprehensible piece of shit.

  • just a lot of conjecture there to make the Dems the bad guys

Conjecture doesn't typically involve direct quotes from sitting legislators.

and reinforce the "both parties are the same" narrative that your ilk like to spread.

You are fine with your party kissing nazi ass. Just not anyone pointing it out. I'd tell you to demand better, but it's clear that you think you're getting it already.

[-] skepticalifornia@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago

Just admit it - no leaders or even major legislators in the Dem party is kissing Nazi ass. The article has non specific quotes from guys I've never heard of. Just more right wing misinformation for Lemmings such as yourself.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Just admit it - no leaders or even major legislators in the Dem party is kissing Nazi ass.

I never made that assertion. Elon is the leader the democrats in the article (and those in this thread minimizing this) have chosen.

Just more right wing misinformation for Lemmings such as yourself.

Everyone to the left of your boy elon is "right wing" to you.

[-] skepticalifornia@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago

Everyone to the left of your boy elon is "right wing" to you

That makes zero fucking sense. Are you OK?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Well, you keep calling me a rightwinger for saying that democrats shouldn't be kissing up to a fucking nazi.

You're fine with nazis but not criticism of quislings.

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