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[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Tell that to the pre world war two united states, porphyriato era mexico, and literally siberia.

I'm so glad roads are flexible and free.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I know. But the last two were accomplished largely by fiat. Which should be impossible in the US, though...you know.

And the pre-WW2 US had the advantage of essentially being pre-suburbs. Now sprawl means that the cost of adequate rail connections increases exponentially while the tax base increases linearly.

Again, like I said before, this is not impossible. But it will require a concerted effort to reverse a century's worth of underinvestment in urban areas, white flight, and stigmatization of multi-family living; and right now, we're doing the opposite of all of those things.

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Im glad the cost of car capable roads and their maintenance, plus fuel and vehicle subdidies, stays the same no matter what. That's so lucky.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

No, of course they don't stay the same. I'm not asserting that at all. In fact, that's a big problem in a lot of places with huge road networks and proportionally too-small tax bases. But they're already there, and upkeep is cheaper than building new.

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