182
submitted 2 months ago by floofloof@lemmy.ca to c/world@lemmy.world
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 79 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

EDIT: Kidnapping. The word you're ignoring in the title is kidnapping.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 2 months ago
[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Funny how they are careful with words when they were literally on international water.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 6 points 2 months ago

I feel like indie news is more important than ever, even if it means hand-cranked mimeos and passing them from person to person. Telecom can be cut at any time.

[-] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

When the UN doesn’t stop the Israeli’s from declaring it a conflict zone. It’s technically not kidnapping. Just like how the US abducted people in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

No. They never entered anywhere Israel is legally allowed to exclude even in war It being full of aid and verifiable non combatants.

It's kidnapping.

Just like how the US abducted people in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Your example is also kidnapping but even excluding that bit of nuance the key word is "in" they never entered territorial waters and thus were never "in" Israel or Palestine. Israel can declare 1500mi of the coast of Somalia an exclusion zone then kidnap people there and that would make just as much sense in a legal view.

[-] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Doesn’t Israel delegate 200 miles off the coast as a no go zone?

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Something like that but the important thing is Israel is not claiming they entered the exclusion zone and similarly they even if they did the result is supposed to be being forcibly turned away not kidnapping and property theft.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago

The flotilla was told several times to turn around or be detained. They decided to not turn around and continued on their intended course to breach the naval blockade.

According to international maritime law Israel can intercept and detain before they enter.

[-] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 1 points 1 month ago

No they can't especially when the blockade is illegal

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Notice you never said they did breach the blockade which btw by international law they have to be given time and allowed to leave even if they enter without permission which they didn't do nor is Israel claiming they did.

Intercept and detain yes, board, seizur, deport and treat as their own... No because duh.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago

Just like police can arrest you before you commit a crime, if you loudly and repeatedly proclaim the intention to commit it.

They were asked repeatedly to change course and refused.

Boarding, capturing the ship, confiscating cargo, and holding crew is exactly what international maritime law says is legal and customary in such situations like a blockade.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

A. Jurisdiction. B. You're confusing ras with PC , you need pc for arrest you need ras to detain.

Because they don't have to, they're well outside the blockade and Israel doesn't own the ocean.

No, international law says a ship entering a blockade illegally can be boarded and detained after they've been given a chance to leave the area.... If they have to be given a chance to leave you can't steal their property and kidnap their crew, that's a crime.

Read the law and don't double post the same thing to me please.

load more comments (10 replies)
[-] vga@sopuli.xyz -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Captured or arrested is the word you're actually looking for. Or, as it currently stands, released.

load more comments (30 replies)
this post was submitted on 10 Jun 2025
182 points (97.9% liked)

World News

48985 readers
423 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS