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These complete morons will not have food if these people do not pick the food.
Gaza is the testing grounds for what life is about to be like in the West. Starvation will be used as a weapon eventually, and who's gonna stop them?
I guess we'll be finding out in LA.
I believe the front will be a little Bigger then just LA after a few days.
There are nationwide protests planed on the fascists bday and he already promised to send the military to any form of protest.
People have been looking for a place to focus their energy. 6 months of feeling completely on our heals because Democrats chose a strategy of curl up and die.
People are hungry for action, and these kinds of events exponentiate organizing.
I'll believe it when I see it. Police could bomb their own cities with plastic explosives and Americans won't do anything about it.
I wonder how many mid-50s or older Americans are on Lemmy?
Us greybeards are here....
You didn't need to be alive when the MOVE bombing happened in order to know about it.
We used to actually learn about shit like this sometimes in public schools...
I mean its going to be streaming on all channels, all day today, tomorrow, and the especially Saturday.
If you aren't seeing it, it might have more to do with where you are looking.
The protests won't go far enough to make a difference and fizzle out like every other "movement" in American history.
None of them have done enough, but plenty have accomplished partial wins.
You're right. We should stay indoors and do nothing instead, which will surely make the fascists give up.
Jokes on them I've been dealing with food scarcity for most my life. I forsge more than I shop.
The problem is most don't and it's not a sustainable practice for a large sedentary group.
training with the IDF, and using PALINTR by the leo to track people down.
They can't really do that in America, there's too much land and room and food. They could temporarily trap a population within a city by surrounding it with some barricades and stuff but that won't last long. The population size of the US has a massive ratio of more citizens than law enforcement and military. They can't take us all.
For someone like me, if the food supplies were all cut off I could just live off of the land by hunting, fishing, and farming.
50% of the produce we consume is grown in the California central valley. The rest is grown in a few areas of the Great plains and in Florida.
Most of the food you see growing anywhere else isn't for people, it's for livestock.
I think you are overestimating just how much food "the land" can provide. You need around an acre a person for subsistence farming, and that is assuming you live in a region that has a decent climate, that you have irrigation, and have access to modern fertilizer and pesticides.
As far as hunting and fishing goes..... If a large sector of the population had to live off the land, the wildlife likely wouldn't last a single season. The only reason we still have the wild animal populations we currently have is because there are strict regulations monitoring the amount of people who hunt and fish.
Early Americans were able to devastate a larger healthier ecology with a tiny fraction of our current population. Most of our country's natural Forrest and woodland were already destroyed and artificially rehabilitated over a hundred years ago. We have very few old growth Forrest for us to actually live off of.
If it weren't for petrochemical fertilizer the natural nitrogen cycle wouldn't be enough to sustain our current population. Since the invention of the haber process in the 1930s we are all just a bad year away from food insecurity.
There are areas and kinds of people who can live off the land, in one way or another. They do exist.
They aren't the majority or the targets here, but they're around.
The rest is accurate, but the military really is in the same boat as the rest of us.
Sure... And have you ever entered a major US city? What, are people going to "live off the land" in the middle of Central Park? Millions of New Yorkers?
alabama tried this in the past, they lost billions from doing this. florida is currently going through this, as well.
Why wouldn't it last long? Is there some sort of organized fighting force of the people we're not aware of? Didn't think so.
Yet they already are.
Ah yes, the government has famously left people like you alone and totally won't turn your land into gravel, drain your water table, and dump the pollution into your river.
Yeah, looks like someone has never heard of the Siege of Serajevo. Really was not that long ago...
Garbage doomer take. Have the courage to find some optimism in life.
I'd be careful with that last point - when a modern people is suddenly forced to turn to the land for sustenance instead of the industrial supply chain, overfishing and overhunting become problems quickly...you won't be the only person out looking for a meal.
Well at least our animal ecosystems are currently robust and thriving, right??
Wild hogs certainly are.
Get a couple of analog meat thermometers, you don’t want the worms in them bad boys.
I think more human lives will be lost than wild lives, but I can be wrong.
The "poors" wont have food. Not once will they ever consider that the poors provide them with their treats and they will wake up one day and be told there are no treats.
They are not paid to think.
Maybe they need to get off their obese behinds and get agricultural jobs.
Like some sort of... (I cant even think of the right slur)!?
How dare you suggest that! Im white!
No but see i can just pay more and have food.
How much does an ICE agent make?
Does a government job pay well enough that they can afford their grocery bill doubling? I have a government job, and I’m thinking of leaving to start my own thing, because I can anticipate that we’re not going to be able to afford to eat for much longer. The selection of produce in stores is already getting worse.
Okay but no, see, i can just pay more and it'll be fine. Markets will save me.
There's no such thing as 'there just isn't any of that'.
I see you’ve never been outside of America.
It is possible for there to just not be something. It’s called no one grew it or ranched it or imported it because most people are priced out of buying it.
But good luck with praying to the market, I’m sure that will go well.
Don't need luck. I got my ford F50000 fleshreaper (BLOOD FOR THE CAR GOD™) and a lift kit, plus a commute that takes me past not one but two elementary schools. The ~~moloch~~ markets'll be plenty pleased with my sacrifice
What's that got to do with anything? I ain't some DIY hippie type. I spend money to get what i need. Money makes stuff appear. Clearly you ain't ever had any.
Biting the hand that feeds you is a bold move
Any wonder why this is happening in Ventura county and not Florida?
Because Trump and co specifically hate California and know there will be pushback. They want pushback. They want to escalate it to violence to justify the violence they are already inflicting.