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[-] rglullis@communick.news 2 points 1 month ago

Let's get rid of open registration instances and look for alternative models that are actually sustainable:

  • Small servers run by self-hosting enthusiasts for their friends and family.
  • Institutional servers (schools/universities running servers for faculty and students, companies running servers for their own employees)
  • Servers run by media institutions for journalists + maybe for subscribers (on a separate domain)
  • Servers provided by telcos, tied to their phone service (get a contract for mobile and that gives you access to our AP server)
  • Commercial providers who charge a flat subscription for access (mastodon.green, omg.lol, my own communick)

We need to get rid of the idea that we can have a sustainable Fediverse infra running on volunteers alone. It is not working, all the growth potential that we have is stunted because people keep lying to themselves.

[-] nulluser@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Let’s get rid of open registration instances

How?

Nobody is stopping any of your bullet points from happening. Those are all options today. Any one of those groups can spin up an instance and nobody is going to stop them. Some already have

But isn't the idea of forcing someone to (not) run their own server however they want antithetical to the whole concept of the fediverse?

You can defederate your personal server from open registration servers if you want. But you can't "get rid of open registration instances." That's just stupid.

[-] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world -1 points 1 month ago

You can't ask people to join small servers that have the biggest risk of shutting down without creating migration toola thst migrate all the content along the likes and comments

[-] rglullis@communick.news 0 points 1 month ago

Size by itself is not the main predictor of risk. My instance is the only one on the Lemmy/kbin/Piefed side of the Fediverse that is exclusive for paying subscribers. It has never had more than 10 active users. This week it is celebrating its second anniversary - coincidentally I set it up on the same day as lemm.ee - and it has outlived a whole lot of instances.

[-] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't know how this dismise my point. Small instances dies all the time. I am more preoccupied by death of instances on oixelfed though

[-] rglullis@communick.news 0 points 1 month ago

Small instances dies all the time

Small hobbyist instances die all the time. Just like the medium ones and the large ones.

[-] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world -1 points 1 month ago
[-] rglullis@communick.news 0 points 1 month ago

Because there are more of them?

[-] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world -1 points 1 month ago

My point still stand. People won't go to small instances that have change of shutting down thr most. Like i said in my very first comment we need better migration tools to encourage people to join small instances

[-] rglullis@communick.news 1 points 1 month ago

There will always be "First we need this, then we will start supporting it" excuse. If you think better migration tools are needed, support the developers so that they can make it happen.

[-] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world -1 points 1 month ago

Suggest me devs who are willing to make such a tool to support it

[-] rglullis@communick.news 0 points 1 month ago
[-] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world -1 points 1 month ago

You just said in another comment that lemmy devs have limited time and budgets to implement better migrations tools. If i find a dev who promote a project lime that i would donate

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