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Iran Strikes Back
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This website is collectively completely deluded. Every thread on this topic I see people (I’m assuming tankies and/or actual Hamas supporters) fantasizing about Iran destroying Israel with is… just laughable from an objective PoV.
I despise the Israeli government but regardless of my feelings towards them, their military is so much more advanced than Iran's, it’s not even comparable. And they have the backstop of a US carrier group, in case something does go wrong.
Unfortunately it’s all feelings and no facts on this website. Makes it really hard to actually engage with people.
You realize Lemmy is a network of federated servers right? Like, I’m not on the same website as you but you’re reading my message.
A lot of people don't, they just know it's where to go when you get fed up with reddit
I know nothing about defense and everything I learned, I did so at NCD, but doesn't Iran have like 88 million people and Israel just 9 million, and Iran has like six times Israel's active personnel? Iirc they're one of the largest armies in ME.
Then again, just by sheer numbers Russia was supposed to overrun Ukraine, 1M dead later and they're still where they started plus few towns charred to the bone.
Perhaps this map will help:
To get from Iran to Israel, the Iranian soldiers would have to cross Iraq (and Jordan) or Syria, both very unfriendly countries full of mountainous terrain. Not a viable ground invasion whatsoever!
The puppet regimes of Jordan and Egypt won't last forever. When they fall, the settlers will find themselves up against over 200 million Arabs in their immediate vicinity.
Iran's standing forces are kind of irrelevant without a way to get them to Israel.
The regime will only have a chance to fsll if israel is the one sending on ground troops
Iran has 82 million inhabitants.
The amount of people willing to die for this regime is much much smaller. 16% are Azerí, 10% Kurds and 2% Balochi, all groups who would rather die than fight for the IRI. Not that this would stop the IRI from pressing 15 year olds into service, but there wouldn't be many volunteers.
true. there was almost certainly a lot of inside help getting attack drones near the sites hit on Friday.
They don't have to like the Iranian government to want to fight against Israel attacking them
Iran has many remote areas that are populated. Their military equipment is decades behind, and Israel gets all their equipment from the US.
The comparison here is very stark; in a single strike Israel managed to cripple Iran's nuclear program, kill a lot of leadership that has been around since their revolution, and completely eradicate all of their radar and early warning systems on the West side of the country.
The best response Iran has? Just over 100 drones. Most of them got shot down before they even reached Israel.
Israel gets a free pass on bullying anyone they see fit in the Middle East.
And by "bullying anyone" you mean active countermeasures against the party, which FOR YEARS has been suggesting to wipe the country off the globe, and was aiming to create nuclear weapons just for that.
How "convenient" of you to skip the public death wishes before being neutralized. 💁
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That is an extremely implausible number. Where in the world did you hear it?
Ukraine regularly reports Russian casualties and destroyed equipment. The Russian casualty number ticked over 1M a few days ago. I'm guessing 'casualty' got lost in translation at some point and turned into 'killed'. I do see people making this mistake a lot with casualties, which is both killed and wounded.
So the source is Ukraine? That does not seem like a particularly reliable source for this, particularly given some of the impossibly high numbers present on that graph.
You can't trust any number when it come to conflicts but will minimize the number of their casualities and overexageratr thr casuality of the other side
Yeah the entire discourse about this conflict here is even more stupider than on reddit
It's not just their total disconnect from history (were they born yesterday?), it's their translating scorn for Israel's actions in the region to mean that Israel's opponents must be the good guys.
Iran has been under the control of two different mullahs for the last 45 years. Just because the Shah was bad doesn't make the Ayatollahs good.
Hamas and Hezbollah are literally terrorist organizations, and Hamas holds onto power in Gaza by oppression and violence. If they both weren't getting massive support from Iran, there might be a negotiating partner for Israel in Palestine like Arafat was.
Without Iran's support, Russia would be failing much faster in Ukraine as well.
Israel is literally a terrorist country.
Nelson Mandela was literally a terrorist too.
"terrorist organizations" by the designation of countries who currently commit or support the committment of genocide. Of course states and their militaries committing acts of terror somehow don't end in a designation as "terrorist organizations"
Meanwhile Israel is arming gangs with ISIS ties in Gaza to pillage humanitarian aid, while the Hamas "terrorists" try to defend that aid.
However none of the states that designate Hamas as "terrorist organization" will give Israel consequences for being a "terrorist supporter" despite arming "terrorists" with ISIS ties. ISIS that has committed terror attacks in the countries allied to Israel, which neither Hamas nor Hezbollah have done.
Maybe Iran has an interest in helping Russia because of shit like this: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/zelenskyy-wants-ukraine-to-be-a-big-israel-heres-a-road-map/
Yeah that isn't the flex you think it is
Maybe you can explain what you thought the flex was.
I don't debate Zionists, they don't argue in good faith.
Hypocrisy suits you.
Hypocrisy is supporting terrorist Israel
Which social website do you know that is all facts and no feelings, please tell me, I wanna move there. And make it decentralized too, so no bozo can buy it tomorrow and make it shit too.
PS: got some quotes from reddit that show what people who think just like you think of other websites:
Look man, people just want to experience a little optimism and fantasize about good things happening in the world. We don't care if it is realistic or not. It keeps hope alive.
Better than being a hopeless doomer about everything.
How can any change happen if there is only a limited willingness to perveive reality and analyze it?
By allowing people to relieve some stress and engage in a little revolutionary optimism every now and then, even if it is far fetched and not realistic, so that people can retain their mental health and remember what it feels like to actually have hope about something in this shithole of a world we find ourselves.
You can't change anything if you don't have hope for a brighter future. This builds hope, even if it has to reach for it.
Not everything at every waking moment needs to be analyzed in depth. At this current moment, none of us could affect the outcome of this situation anyway, so let people fantasize.
Magical thinking won’t save us.
Never said it would, but neither will you being a wet blanket to people who are just trying to make the best of a shit situation that they cannot affect in any materially significant way at this current moment.
And FYI, that "magical thinking", does help bring change. A movement without hope is a movement that is doomed to fail. Look up "revolutionary optimism" and its importance for keeping up morale.
The easiest way to break an army is to break their spirits. If yours is already broken, then you are no help to anyone.
They didn't say Iran was going to singlehandedly do it
Realistically, it well be climate change that does them in, not a military conflict.
Its crazy right? I'm so tired of reddit alternatives being taken over by lunatics. So tired man.
Plenty of lunatics on Reddit though too.
Go back to r/worldnews
I don't believe anyone is saying Iran is capable of doing it, just that it'd be a good day when it finally does happen.
Israel has all the best toys from their sugar-daddy America. Of course a handful of out-dated Iranian drones won't do shit.
In the last 24 hours I had the pleasure of interacting with multiple users who are 100% sure Iran is stronger than Israel.
it's an excuse for extremists to indulge conspiracy fantasies and hate jews openly
You don’t have to be an extremist to hate them…
Fuck Israel.
seems like you'll be next in line to commit an act of terror for the cause
All empires eventually collapse, and an empire is like a large cake, most easily diminished at the edges. Israel will fall sooner or later, like the Crusader states and like French colonization in Algeria. It took 198 years for the Crusader states to fall, 132 years for Algeria to be liberated from brutal French colonialism. We may all be long dead when it happens but it will happen.