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[-] furycd001@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

System service managers like systemd, OpenRC, runit, or SysVinit often come down to user preference. While these systems are crucial for initializing and managing services on servers, where uptime, resource allocation, and specific daemon behaviors are important, their impact on a typical desktop or laptop is generally minimal.

For most personal devices, the primary functions of a service manager occur largely out of sight. As long as the system boots reliably and applications run smoothly, the underlying service manager rarely registers as a significant factor in the daily user experience.

For many, including myself, systemd simply works without much fuss. My choice to stick with it isn't due to strong conviction or deep technical analysis, but rather the simple fact that I've rarely, if ever, had to interact with it directly. For my personal desktop and laptop, it reliably handles booting, service management, and shutdown in the background. If it's not broken and isn't hindering my daily computing, there's no compelling reason to explore alternatives.

[-] mittorn@masturbated.one -5 points 1 month ago

@furycd001 @nutbutter Technically, it's broken. If you run screen/tmux built without systemd support, it will be killed on logout. Systemd requires every program that needs daemonize link libsystemd0 only to notify systemd to keep it running. So it's broken, but worked-around in every software which need daemonize

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

So, running a program incompatible with a particular system leads to incompatibilities?

Wow, who'd have thought...

[-] mittorn@masturbated.one -1 points 1 month ago

@lka1988 why systemd needs some extra compatibility? If it designed to work, it must just work, not requiring changing evertyhing around

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

Ok, let me spell this out for you:

IF YOU RUN A PROGRAM THAT IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH A CERTAIN PART OF THE CORE SYSTEM, DON'T BE SURPRISED WHEN IT LEADS TO INCOMPATIBILITIES.

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