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Kind of maddening that people who can't even afford to own a car have to pay for other people's car dependency, only to be yelled at for "not sharing the road" when they've got to get to work or school by bike.
I think this goes both ways though. Obviously cars get more money, but there are lots of instances of taxpayers paying for public transit they cannot personally use.
the thing about public transport is that you benefit from other people using it, i for one quite like having less traffic on the roads and less pollution in the air that i breathe
The aggregate cost of public transit besides roads themselves is a rounding error against the aggregate cost of roads alone, nationwide. This is not a valid argument until that comparison is anywhere near peer.
That's how taxes work. Is it also insane people who don't go to school or have kids have their taxes funding their local districts and community colleges?
Not the same, though.
The ROI on public education should be incentive enough to want your taxes going to it.
Encourageing car dependency creates losses across numerous categories, including health, environmental, further tax burden, public safety, land use, etc.
But my point was that the entitlement that some drivers have about "owning the road" is so toxic.
Don't most goods move by truck? You want your Amazon package don't you?
Switzerland requires all warehouses to have a rail connection. Semi trucks are not needed.
Trains to move long distances, trucks for city to city transport, local deliveries can be made by smaller truck or cargo e-bikes.
No need to get rid of roads. We need to get rid of car dependency and make road use more equitable for all users.
Those same people can STFU unless they want to waive all their rights to police protection, ambulance service, or fire department response.
Explain.
Do police, ambulance, and fire need 4 lane stroads packed with gridlock, or 18 lane highways filled with traffic congestion to function properly?
We can have a working road system for emergency services, transport, and public transportation without the burden of car dependency.
police protection lmao
if removing roads means the police can't get around then we should do it ASAP, it would save so many lives
Protected bike lanes / bus lanes / tramway can also be used by ambulances, fire department and police in case of emergency. They even have better response times due to not being stuck on car traffic
So yeah, I'd rather have my tax dollars being used in that kind of infrastructure, instead of only on car centric designs
Mr. Owl, how many libertarians does it take to solve a bear problem?
It depends.. black bear or brown bear? https://youtu.be/PYkWWnZm6-w
Drivers whining about bike lanes etc. can STFU first. Then, and only then, you might have had a point.
Emergency services are paid for by property taxes. Completely independent of what kind of vehicle people do (or do not) use.