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[-] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

https://pod.link/1651876897/episode/cc36ce12d2fd1a171630d1733998b414

Where do I find the show notes? This is all i see at the link you provided

I'd really like to see and engage with the thesis here, but it's not presented in a accessible way. Could you give the argument please?

[-] scrion@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The papers are listed at the bottom of the screenshot you posted, I agree it's badly formatted so not immediately obvious / visible.

However, I can provide sources later on, I actually still have to get back to another post to provide some papers, but it'll be a while until I have the time to do that.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 week ago

ok, guess its these three papers

Our results show that choice architecture interventions overall promote behavior change with a small to medium effect size of Cohen’s d = 0.43 (95% CI [0.38, 0.48])

So the meta-analysis says nudging works, but not to some massive degree.

[-] scrion@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Given that you quoted from the last paper, there was a response from Maier et al. to that paper explicitly, correcting for publication bias and finding no effect when "nudging":

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9351501/

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 week ago

Maier's letter to the editor is not peer reviewed; it counts as opinion, the original authors have not retracted their paper - so the matter is at best "divided"

[-] scrion@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The original paper might have other issues, e. g. https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2022/01/07/pnas-gigo-qrp-wtf-approaching-the-platonic-ideal-of-junk-science/

But I'm not here to discuss effect size or quality of sources, I think it is much more important to understand that there is no good proof that nudging enables people to make good, lasting changes, while at the same time offering policymakers an easy and cheap way out of applying uncontested, proven methods that would be a lot more beneficial.

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